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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

Ya, I've been reading the posts and thinking I might have to do that if 
coyotes wind up tearing the chicken coop.  And especially when other larger 
animals are added.  
 
One bad thing here, is the other people on the property are not dog people.  
It's a long story, but the bottom line it is very confusing for the dog and 
resulted in dog insanity.... (my professional Dr. Doolittle diagnosis).  We 
had one here earlier this year.  The dog was one of the best dogs I'd seen in 
a long time (for trainability, smart, play instincts, etc).  It was the other 
people here who weren't trainable.  My brother gave her away one day 
inexplicably when.  Best for the dog, IMO.  But I still miss her.  
 
She was no match for a coyote though, she was never going to be more than 
40#.  I could tell by her nervousness at times and her refusal to leave the 
porch and the way she was sniffing the air that there were probably some 
around from time to time that I couldn't see.  Her whole behavior would 
change.  Even when indoors, she would get a scent of something and stiffen 
and be focused on something outside.  I've had dogs ever since I was an 
adult, and I really miss having companions that could out hear and out smell 
me, or walk in front of me everywhere, or stand between me and everyone else. 
 
 
LOL - I had a couple of rat terriers for a long time.  The female got stung 
by a scorpion one time.... after that she always protected me from 
scorpions... she would go berzerk if one came anywhere near me and attack and 
kill them, even if it meant getting stung.  And there was nothing I could do 
to stop her from protecting me once one of them got too close.  Fortunately 
that wasn't often.  I always felt so bad for her though.  Dogs are amazing.  
They knew which animals were "ours" and which ones weren't.  And once I'd 
identify one I didn't want around, I didn't have to remind them again.
 
Oh well, back to nursing a headache tonight.
 
 


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“All political thinking for years past has been vitiated in the same way. 
People can foresee the future only when it coincides with their own wishes, 
and the most grossly obvious facts can be ignored when they are unwelcome. 
Political language... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder 
respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.” ~ George 
Orwell

--- On Fri, 1/23/09, Robert Walton <waltonrp AT gmail.com> wrote:

From: Robert Walton <waltonrp AT gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Coyotes
To: cayadopi AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Friday, January 23, 2009, 9:29 PM

> I figure to protect the chickens I'm going to have to bury wire just
under the ground to keep them from digging under, and wire across the top to
keep them from jumping in.
>

I have coyotes and foxes after my animals amongst others. A couple of
years ago I got a Great Pyrenees LGD. She came with my goat herd, as
an extra add on. I didn't want her at first, but finally relented and
took her. I really didn't think that a LGD would really do what they
are supposed to do.

I can tell you Furley is worth her considerable weight in gold. She
didn't know chickens when she came here, but learned quickly that they
are a thing to protect. the only time I lose chickens is when they
sneak under the fence and she can't to where they are.

We have a thing that anything we want to keep goes in the pasture with
Furley at night, including setting hens and hens with chicks. She puts
up with the pigs (has even made friends) and all the goat craziness.
She even guards the guineas and when they are out in the wood
squawking, she is right there.

Furley gets the best and meatiest bones around here.

Rob - Va
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Our dogs stay near the house if there is more than one mountain lion around.
One and they will work the pasture to drive it off.   How in the heck they
learned this is beyond me!

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: "Leslie" <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>

Ya, I've been reading the posts and thinking I might have to do that if
coyotes wind up tearing the chicken coop. And especially when other larger
animals are added.

One bad thing here, is the other people on the property are not dog people.
It's a long story, but the bottom line it is very confusing for the dog and
resulted in dog insanity.... (my professional Dr. Doolittle diagnosis). We
had one here earlier this year. The dog was one of the best dogs I'd seen in
a long time (for trainability, smart, play instincts, etc). It was the other
people here who weren't trainable. My brother gave her away one day
inexplicably when. Best for the dog, IMO. But I still miss her.

She was no match for a coyote though, she was never going to be more than
40#. I could tell by her nervousness at times and her refusal to leave the
porch and the way she was sniffing the air that there were probably some
around from time to time that I couldn't see. Her whole behavior would
change. Even when indoors, she would get a scent of something and stiffen
and be focused on something outside. I've had dogs ever since I was an
adult, and I really miss having companions that could out hear and out smell
me, or walk in front of me everywhere, or stand between me and everyone
else.

LOL - I had a couple of rat terriers for a long time. The female got stung
by a scorpion one time.... after that she always protected me from
scorpions... she would go berzerk if one came anywhere near me and attack
and kill them, even if it meant getting stung. And there was nothing I could
do to stop her from protecting me once one of them got too close.
Fortunately that wasn't often. I always felt so bad for her though. Dogs are
amazing. They knew which animals were "ours" and which ones weren't. And
once I'd identify one I didn't want around, I didn't have to remind them
again.

Oh well, back to nursing a headache tonight.




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“All political thinking for years past has been vitiated in the same way.
People can foresee the future only when it coincides with their own wishes,
and the most grossly obvious facts can be ignored when they are unwelcome.
Political language... is designed to make lies sound truthful and murder
respectable, and to give an appearance of solidity to pure wind.” ~ George
Orwell

--- On Fri, 1/23/09, Robert Walton <waltonrp AT gmail.com> wrote:

From: Robert Walton <waltonrp AT gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Coyotes
To: cayadopi AT yahoo.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Friday, January 23, 2009, 9:29 PM

> I figure to protect the chickens I'm going to have to bury wire just
under the ground to keep them from digging under, and wire across the top to
keep them from jumping in.
>

I have coyotes and foxes after my animals amongst others. A couple of
years ago I got a Great Pyrenees LGD. She came with my goat herd, as
an extra add on. I didn't want her at first, but finally relented and
took her. I really didn't think that a LGD would really do what they
are supposed to do.

I can tell you Furley is worth her considerable weight in gold. She
didn't know chickens when she came here, but learned quickly that they
are a thing to protect. the only time I lose chickens is when they
sneak under the fence and she can't to where they are.

We have a thing that anything we want to keep goes in the pasture with
Furley at night, including setting hens and hens with chicks. She puts
up with the pigs (has even made friends) and all the goat craziness.
She even guards the guineas and when they are out in the wood
squawking, she is right there.

Furley gets the best and meatiest bones around here.

Rob - Va
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