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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

I hate going to the big city too.  The last time I went was in October.... 
and with the exception that I had to drive to El Paso to fly to Miami on a 
legal matter,,,, I've only driven ~120 miles since October.  Although I 
cheated as my dad drove to look at the free windows and I've got to go fetch 
them this week.... but will also make 3-4 planned stops in the 2 stop light 
town on that trip.
 
I was wondering why you have to get new glasses every year.  I only replace 
them when they are broken, or when the Rx changes so much that I can no 
longer read road signs safely or read. Decades ago, I worked the OR for 
years, and with on particular opthamologist extensively... one thing he told 
me is that people don't "have" to wear glasses. I asked him what he meant, 
and he said it is not medically necessary to have 20/20 refraction, or any 
refraction for that matter.  He said that you only need corrective lenses for 
those times you want to actually see better.  As blind as I am I can walk 
around perfectly well without wearing my glasses, although I prefer to wear 
them, and I certainly couldn't attempt to hunt a deer or drive without them 
(although I could drive the scooter safely without them, I think...)  LOL.  I 
had pretty much the same Rx for 20 years, until I hit 45 and age started 
making me need longer arms....  Only 2 Rx changes as I
 went thru that period, and my eyes stabilized again, at least for now.
 
And of course I know you would figure out that what happens to a commercial 
farmer in a hyperinflation won't happen directly to a homesteader.  They will 
happen to the commercial farmers that provide all that grocery store food for 
the city folks though....... Will food shortages follow?  Will our wonderful 
government attempt to nationalize any of the food grown by small farmers and 
homesteaders?  
 
(James - has this happened in any other country in history during food 
shortages, where governments seized a/k/a nationalized food from the "little 
folks"?  Didn't that happen in Cuba - where all the little farmers were only 
allowed to keep X amount they produced and the rest had to go to the "public 
good" or whatever you want to call it.)
 
I figure there will be effects, and it isn't going to be possible to know 
what they all will be.  T
The obvious one will be fuel costs (electric, oil, LP, gas, diesel, 
lubricants, etc.)  Then medical costs, including glasses, dental, etc.  
Commercially purchased feed anyone?
 
I've been working on designing my chicken coop this a/m, to include that 
intensive design using worms, and maggots and sprouts.... to reduce 
dependency on commercial feed - and in time, grow my own corn and other crops 
for them for scratch to eliminate commercial feed.  I'm going to give it to 
my dad today (an engineer) and let him calc out with the design how much 
supplies to buy,,,, will give him something to do, even though I don't need 
the info.... LOL.
 
So when I mention hyperinflation --- just recognize I'm looking at everything 
around me, and asking - what if I couldn't buy this  --- what other way can I 
do this that wouldn't require ever increasing amounts of money?
 
What if I can't afford chicken feed - how can I feed them?
What if I can't afford LP to heat my home - how can I stay warm?
Stuff like that......
 
And that I don't know how bad it is going to get ----- I just know that most 
people are really really spoiled and I suspect will resort to "legalized 
seizing methods" if TSHTF.  
 
 


--- On Tue, 1/13/09, EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:

From: EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Needing stuff like Glasses
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Date: Tuesday, January 13, 2009, 1:26 PM

The thought occurs to me how odd this discussion about glasses might sound..
One minute, I am talking about how I am trying to be self sufficient on
the farm, and the next, I am looking around for cheap glasses.  It is
just that I am not sure that there is any homestead alternative for good
vision.  It is worse than healthcare.  Glasses are very individualistic,
not very generic.
I think one of the reasons I detest driving down to the metro area is
because I left that horrible place because of too many people and too
much traffic, and I cringe at the thought of 'needing' anything from
it.
I will do whatever I can to avoid driving back down there, and in fact
it has only happened once in 10 years (that I can recall)when we needed
a part from a service center there.
So Leslie, I guess what I am saying is that I ain't the perfect
homesteader..lol..I still need things from the city...I still have to
travel down there or pay shipping.  I do understand what you are saying
about hyperinflation, but these instances of 'need' are minimized for
me, a lot more than say, my best friend, who runs her big diesel up and
down I-75 heading back to the mall area where the Costco is.  Her DH
actually works down there, so she is down in Atlanta several times a
week. But it grates on me if I find myself in a situation that I need to
go..I used to meet two rabbit customers down there, but I would schedule
them at the same time and make one trip down there, plus, they paid for
my gas...it was meeting them halfway as they lived on the other side of
Atlanta.

B

EarthNSky wrote:
> I just went to the Costco site and found that there are a couple of 
> stores down in HotLanta-closest is 74 miles.  They've obviously
> opened since I moved away.  Thanks for the offer, but I could make
> the trip there to pick them up if they offer what I need.  I know
> there is a LensCrafters, Pearl, and other chains down there as well.
> I just hate making two trips down there, you know?  It's not like I
> can be like 99% of the rest of the world and get glasses in an hour.
> Mine take a week or so.  Frustrating.

-- 
"Nothing in this world can take the place of persistence. Talent will
not; nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent. Genius
will not; unrewarded genius is almost a proverb. Education will not; the
world is full of educated derelicts. Persistence and determination alone
are omnipotent. The slogan 'press on' has solved and always will solve
the problems of the human race"

~ Calvin Coolidge
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Does anyone here re-use them?   (The lid part)
 
I know the instructions say to not reuse them, but my grandmother did all the 
time.
 
Anyone know of success/failure rates?



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If you have a relatively local Costco and they do the lenses, you should
only have to make the one trip.  They should mail the glasses to you.  I
called mine and they do that.

Lynda
----- Original Message -----
From: "EarthNSky" <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>


>I just went to the Costco site and found that there are a couple of
> stores down in HotLanta-closest is 74 miles.  They've obviously opened
> since I moved away.  Thanks for the offer, but I could make the trip
> there to pick them up if they offer what I need.  I know there is a
> LensCrafters, Pearl, and other chains down there as well.  I just hate
> making two trips down there, you know?  It's not like I can be like 99%
> of the rest of the world and get glasses in an hour.  Mine take a week
> or so.  Frustrating.
> I have two glasses options in town, the optical shop where I got these
> glasses, and Walmart.  I think ordering online will save a lot of money,
> if the quality is good and the risk is low.  I think Eyeglass Direct
> might be my company...
> Thanks everyone for indulging me in this search, and for the offers of
> help.
> Lynda wrote:
>> Bev, can you hold off until after the 29th.  I'll be going down to
>> the coast and I'll see if they will ship them from the store there.
>> You might have to buy a membership but if they won't ship, I could
>> pick them up and ship them to you.
>>
>> Lynda ----- Original Message ----- From: "EarthNSky"
>> <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>
>>
>>
>>> No Costco here.  But thanks anyway.
>>>
>>>
>>> bobf wrote:
>>>> Bev, just a thought and I don't know if it will be of use to you.
>>>>  Costco has consistently been rated # 1  by consumer reports for
>>>> the quality of their glass cutting (or plastic); & the overall
>>>> package and the price for quality.  At the Doctor's showroom, my
>>>> wife's glasses would, also, cost well over $600.  At Costco, the
>>>> price is almost half.  And, they have a better selection of
>>>> frames than the doc.....................
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Tue, 1/13/09, EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Bev, Those prices sound about the same as here in TN.
>>>>> My daughter
>>>>>> just got her first pair of bifocals and needed the
>>>>> same as you or
>>>>>> else the lenses are coke bottles and weigh a ton,
>>>>> besides looking
>>>>>> bad.  Her glasses have always been expensive, even as
>>>>> a child.  Eyes
>>>>>> are precious things, scrimp somewhere else.
>>>>> All I can say is Thank God for High Refractive Index Plastic.
>>>>> It is more than just cosmetic. With glass, there was always a
>>>>> safety issue, and with either glass or plastic, the weight of
>>>>> the lens determined(s) what kind of frame it goes it.  I still
>>>>> wear the half rim frames that are popular now;there is not
>>>>> enough support for the lens. In the old days, before high index
>>>>> lens, and with special frames, I had zero peripheral vision.
>>>>> That reason alone put me in contacts for 30 years.  Alas, those
>>>>> days are over and I am back to glasses. It is easier, but not
>>>>> cheaper.  No worries on scrimping, I have paid about $600/year
>>>>> for a while now.  I am looking at all kinds of alternatives<g>.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bev
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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