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[bobf <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

--- On Thu, 12/25/08, EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:


> Do you really think the economy will become that bad?  In my mind, I don't 
> see a need for all of that just yet.  I see things going downhill, then 
> stabilizing, then coming back in a few years in time for the re-election.  

*******  That is the hard part , isn't it Bev?  trying to cipher just how far 
in a direction things will swing and how long it will take for that move ion 
the swing to occur.  If one of the 'doom and gloomers' were to shout out 
their prediction:  This really is the end, this time, soon we will 'all' 
die".  Well, soon, we will all die anyway......
the maigc is to hold onto as much security , comfort and joy, that we can, 
and maybe even increase; during any specific period of time until we , each, 
die.  

In this present scenario, I wonder if I am being caught up in the hype of 
'gloom and doom".  I really am worried.  But, maybe it will just be another 
political transition, like you implied.



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I see a lot more programs and
> such to be put
> in place in Obama's second term.  People will get the
> relief they need,
> but there will always be a portion who become dependent on
> the dole.
> Eventually, for whatever reason, that dole will stop, and
> in my mind,
> that is when TSWHTF.  The lessons of Katrina illustrate my
> point.
> People did not evacuate because it was time for the check
> to arrive and
> they had no money save that check.  Afterwards, when there
> were no
> services(and there still aren't in places), people had
> to move on to
> other cities, other areas, to find what they needed.  Many
> are still
> angry and still want to return to LA.  But what if instead
> of a small
> section of the population we are talking about a majority
> of the US
> population on the dole (from various social programs that
> will probably
> be instituted over the next 8-10 years) and what if there
> was a
> nationwide or global economic collapse and suddenly, all
> the Havenots
> would have no place to go..but they would definitely still
> see the
> Haves, and then their anger will spill over...yada yada
> yada...
> IF that were to happen, and I think even that is a big IF,
> I wouldn't
> expect anything like that for 10-15 years at the earliest.
> 
> >> 
> >> Question.... on the hunting knives.... some of
> them have some 
> >> wicked jagged edges on the upper side.  What is
> the jagged edge 
> >> really for?
> 
> As for hunting and survival knives, I have a Kershaw and a
> pair from
> Knives of Alaska.  Mine do not have the large serrations
> that you are
> talking about because mine are more for hunting than
> survival.  Those
> large serrations are for cutting with a sawing
> motion...yes, you can cut
> a bit of wood, maybe, but mostly it was designed to cut
> things like
> parachute cords and lashings, wire, and even thin metal
> like a coke can.
> 
> The first 'survival' knife I bought was a hunting
> knife like the one
> below.  Mine is a slightly different model Kershaw in that
> mine is a
> scoche larger and somehow my gut hook looks different, but
> it is close.
> 
> http://kershawknives.com/productdetails.php?id=366&brand=kershaw
> 
> Then, as a gift, we got these knives..
> 
> http://www.knivesofalaska.com/catalog/prod_display.aspx?from=Combination+Sets&cat=Combo+Light+Hunter
> 
> The one I use the most is the Light Hunter combo.  It has
> the double
> sheath like you see in the picture.
> 
> The first deer Ron shot was his to gut and clean, and his
> second was
> mine.  He got two deer in one sitting, his first and second
> kills came
> within seconds of each other.  Anyway, I beebopped out to
> the meat pole
> with my knives and sharpeners and bowls and such and we
> started
> butchering our first deer.  It only took a few minutes to
> realize that
> the big Kershaw wasn't the right tool.  Yeah, the hook
> helps cut
> ligaments and in skinning and in pulling out the guts, but
> the best
> knife was the smallest one, because I could hold that knife
> and work my
> hand up inside of the tight space of the animal.  The hand
> became part
> of my hand, not a tool to hold.  That made all the
> difference.  The
> smaller blade also allowed for more delicate cuts around
> the anus, etc.
> 
> Point is, there are some things you learn by doing, and
> what looks like
> the right tool may not be.  Before you invest more money in
> tools of any
> kind, talk to people and find out what they really use to
> separate that
> from any pre-conceived Hollywood notions(like large Rambo
> knives) that
> you might have. Both of my knives are decent quality
> tools..'cold
> steel'..both hold an edge well and are easily
> maintained...but a knife
> is a tool, and despite the claims of multiple uses, they
> are fairly
> specialized.  Had I been cutting up larger game like an elk
> or
> moose(note the name of the Kershaw knife is Elk
> Hunter-DUH), that
> Kershaw might have been just the ticket, but for these
> little
> whitetails, it is overkill and not the right choice.
> 
> I think knife choice is almost a personal decision because
> so many
> factors go into the choice..hand size, use, handle
> preference, cost...
> 
> However, if I were going to stock up on cheap tools to
> barter or
> something, I'd buy multi-tools. I love my Gerber
> tool...very useful and
> easy to carry.  They come in different sizes, too.  A
> couple of weeks
> ago at the tag office, I had to empty my backpack purse at
> the metal
> detector..lol...you should have seen the officer's face
> when I pulled
> out my multi-tool, my Swiss Army knife, a folding
> boxcutter, a separate
> pocket knife, and assorted other junk...it was too funny. 
> I had to
> basically take my purse and contents back to the truck... 
> :)
> 
> Bev
> 
> 
> -- 
> "The world is my country, all mankind are my
>   brethren, and to do good is my religion."
>   Thomas Paine (1737 - 1809)
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