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Re: [Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov
- From: Clansgian AT wmconnect.com
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- Subject: Re: [Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov
- Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 11:50:07 EST
> >Don, I've read this man's commentary before, maybe on nationalreview.com
> or backwoodshome.com, I don't remember. But, one thing in that blurb that
> you
> quoted he mentioned 'squirreling you money away". That is good, except
> most
> people's money today is digital.
Bob, when I read the article, the thought that kept going through my head was
, 'Now, who does this remind me of ...."
On another forum there has beem the discussion of the LOA (Law Of Attraction)
how you are supposed to sort of lure money to yourself by your attitude and
actions. The image I offered was the difference between one of those giant
electro-magnets that lifts tanks and rail cars and rubbing a comb over a
sweater
to pick up bits of paper. That is, the LOA works much better when you aren't
trying to attract so much.
Like that, the lifestyle being described doesn't involve much money. If a
person needs $2000 a month for a mortgage payment, $800 a month for a car
payment, $500 in utilities, $300 in insurances, $1000 for purchased
groceries, and
$1200 for continuous medical expenses then this squirreling away of money
isn't
going to work out very well. The amount of money we are talking about
needing to live in this semi-transparent mode you could carry around in your
wallet.
We (Americans) are so used to living large and thinking anything else but
living large is the same thing as failure, the notion of how content life can
be
living small escapes us (collectively). Obama even mentioned some of this in
his pre-election speeches and it was either completely ignored or else hit
upon as some sort of defeatism.
One manifestation of this is alternate electric power. All you have to do is
cut back to the level of power use you'd have if you only had solar and wind
and then it wouldn't matter where the power came from.
Another is alluding to Brazil and how they are energy indepedent. Sure they
are, there the rate of automobile ownership is less than one family in
twenty.
If we had that same rate of ownership, we would be a net oil exporting
country.
The lesson I have learned is that as you make your life and lifestyle more
and more modest, the problems you were worried about solving begin to
evaporate.
The squirreling away of money is a very good example. How are you going to
convert those tens of thousands (or hundreds of thousands) into anything you
can effectively and safely store?? As you approach the type of lifestyle
being
described, it isn't a problem.
James
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[Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov,
Don Bowen, 11/09/2008
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Re: [Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov,
bob ford, 11/09/2008
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Re: [Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov,
Don Bowen, 11/09/2008
- Re: [Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov, bob ford, 11/09/2008
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Re: [Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov,
Gene GeRue, 11/09/2008
- Re: [Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov, bob ford, 11/09/2008
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Re: [Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov,
Don Bowen, 11/09/2008
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Re: [Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov,
DSanner106, 11/09/2008
- Re: [Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov, bob ford, 11/09/2008
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Re: [Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov,
Clansgian, 11/09/2008
- Re: [Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov, Gene GeRue, 11/09/2008
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Re: [Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov,
Clansgian, 11/09/2008
- Re: [Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov, bob ford, 11/09/2008
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Re: [Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov,
Clansgian, 11/09/2008
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Re: [Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov,
EarthNSky, 11/09/2008
- Re: [Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov, bob ford, 11/09/2008
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Re: [Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov,
EarthNSky, 11/09/2008
- Re: [Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov, DSanner106, 11/09/2008
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Re: [Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov,
bob ford, 11/09/2008
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