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  • From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov
  • Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2008 07:17:22 -0800 (PST)

Don, I've read this man's commentary before, maybe on nationalreview.com or
backwoodshome.com, I don't remember. But, one thing in that blurb that you
quoted he mentioned 'squirreling you money away". That is good, except most
people's money today is digital.

And, even if a person withdrew actually physical cash, where would the
person put it, and if the digital currency suffered great inflation, would
thast not devalue the physical 'cash'. Maybe something else you read in the
book could answer......bobford


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--- On Sun, 11/9/08, Don Bowen <don.bowen AT earthlink.net> wrote:

> From: Don Bowen <don.bowen AT earthlink.net>
> Subject: [Homestead] Reinventing Collapse by Dmitry Orlov
> To: DropOut AT yahoogroups.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org,
> SurvivingModernSociety AT yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, November 9, 2008, 8:07 AM
> I have almost finished this book. Dmitry Orlov lived in the
> US but had
> extensive business travel to the former USSR as it was
> collapsing. In his
> book he describes the social and cultural systems that
> helped the people of
> the USSR survive the collapse with minimal disruption. He
> then compares
> those structures to the structures in the US to show why a
> collapse will be
> much harder on the population. As one small example, few
> people in the USSR
> owned their homes so during the collapse there was no one
> at the door
> telling them to get out. Here in the US most of us are
> making payments to a
> bank or landlord. If we can no longer pay we are forced
> onto the street. I
> am not sure how accurate his descriptions are but that is
> just one of
> several comparisons.
>
>
>
> The later part of the book is how we can better survive a
> collapse he fully
> expects to see here. He sees a collapse of the US driven
> by economic forces
> exacerbated by ever rising energy prices which then force a
> political
> disruption. He paints a rather dire picture but does many
> several
> interesting suggestions. One of which is to help as many
> people as you can
> to build up good will points. As things become more
> difficult those people
> will provide the support network needed.
>
>
>
> Here is another suggestion on how to get ready for an
> economy where money is
> scarce or non existent.
>
>
>
> "This is then the correct stance vis a' vis the
> money economy: You should
> appear to have no money or significant possessions. But
> you should have
> access to resources, such as food, clothing, medicine,
> places to stay and
> work and even money. What you do with your money is up to
> you. For example
> you could simply misplace it, the way squirrels do with
> nuts and acorns. Or
> you can convert it into communal property of one sort or
> another. You
> should avoid getting paid, but you should accept gifts and,
> of course, give
> gifts in return. You should never work for money, but
> always donate your
> time and effort charitably. You should have a minimum of
> personal
> possessions, but plenty to share with others. Developing
> such a stance is
> hard, but, once you do, life actually gets better.
> Moreover, by adopting
> such a stance, you become collapse-proof."
>
>
>
> Something to think on.
>
>
>
> Don Bowen KI6DIU
>
> http://www.braingarage.com/Dons/Travels/journal/Journal.html
>
>
>
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