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> My issues with certain list members are not new.  I left this list  
> once
> because of the double standard that I saw.  I left again last night,  
> and
> came back today.  This post is about anger.
> I have a lot of leftover anger regarding this election and this list.
> The list is the only place I really discuss politics, and this  
> election
> is my first foray into political discussions in the 13 or 14 years or
> whatever that I have been here.  I have participated at a cost to my
> personal relationships, and I am not referring to Gene.  Don't get me
> wrong, I entered the fray knowing that I was amongst those who held
> opposite opinions, and for the most part, I do enjoy reading views  
> that
> are opposite mine, however there is often a double standard on this  
> list
> that favors liberalism and those who lean to the left, and that double
> standard really bothers me. <Palin voice on> If you can't see the  
> double
> standard, then you are probably one of the ones I'm talkin'  
> about.<Palin
> voice off> ;)
>
>
> I was chastised for labeling people as Pro and Anti-Obama and yet,  
> those
> same people have said nothing about Gene labeling me as closed  
> minded or
> Moon's characterization of Sarah Palin as trash.(Sorry to pick on you
> Moon, that was just the most recent label that I have read on the  
> list)
>   A label is apparently ok, if the liberal members agree with it.  And
> then there is so much talk of respect and civility, and yet, that rule
> only seems to apply to some people and not others. Gene posted an
> article with his baiting and confrontational comments, and I responded
> with an argumentative opinion. Gene said recently that he respected my
> opinion, but when I voiced it in response to his post, he called me
> closed minded.  Yesterday or before that, he started off a post to  
> Drew
> questioning Drew's open-mindedness, which automatically makes a person
> go into defense mode.  It is all super ironic, since I think Gene is  
> the
> one with a closed mind when it comes to hearing negative things  
> about Obama.



I don't mind you repeating what I said. It's just my personal opinion,  
and I did, out of respect, keep it off list until after the election  
was over, because it really is just personal opinion.

But with respect, Bev, and I do mean this because I can see you are  
trying to be civil and respectful, you are like a dog with a bone on  
this Ayers thing. I never once saw you  discuss the Republican  
campaign's holes...Keating 5...Troopergate...Cindy McCain's drug use,  
John McCain's philandering. Your questioning and discussion only went  
one way.



> g
>
> There is also racial anger.  My entire life, I have believed that race
> does not matter.


And yet, down further in this letter, you refer to all black people as  
getting their news from somewhere else. If you want to be colour  
blind....BE COLOUR BLIND.

>  I was taught, like I taught my children, to live by
> the words of Martin Luther King, to judge a man, not by the color of  
> his
> skin, but by the content of his character.  I live by that. I believe
> that to be a truth-a path to a better world, and that is why I  
> taught it
> to my children.  And yet in this election, I see hundreds of thousands
> of black people who have voted for Obama not on the content of his
> character, but on the color of his skin.  This angers me, and I fully
> expect that I will not be alone in my anger on this matter.   I feel
> that white people, the MSM, and even some people on this list gave  
> Obama
> a pass because of his race, and never looked very hard at the rest of
> the picture.  His childhood and upbringing did affect him...it led to
> his ideology.  The problem is, I see a blue violet ideology and you  
> see
> blue green ideology, and no one really knows where Obama lies in the
> spectrum...and it does matter, because we deserve to know.
> One more comment about race and then I will let it go here.  I think
> contrary to popular opinion, that Obama's election will hurt race
> relations in this country.  When I say New America, this is what I
> reference.   We are now living in a new and different America, where
> attitudes are very different than they were even three days ago.  When
> you combine the new sense of  empowerment blacks feel, with the
> expectation that Obama will be a savior to the poor, with the anger  
> that
> whites have over reverse racism and ideological anger like what I feel
> and described above, you end up with problems and I think you will  
> start
> to see the clashes very soon, even before the inauguration.  Today, at
> the dealership where Ron works, black employees did not show up for
> work.  I don't know how widespread this is, but I know it is at least
> greater than a local phenomenon because I have heard the same comments
> from people in other cities. Apparently, some people don't see the  
> need
> to work, because their housing, insurance, gasoline, and medical bills
> will soon be taken care of. They can't wait for Socialism to take
> effect.  I personally hope that people come to their senses soon,  
> but I
> fear this behavior will grow and that there will be serious  
> implications
> to race relations.  One of the guys that works with Ron, Rocky, is a
> sweet man.  He's older than me, and illiterate, but he has a huge  
> heart
> and well, he's the kind of guy you would want to tell stories to your
> grandkids.  He's dirt poor-takes care of his handicapped sister, and
> they treat him like crap at work-he's the guy who cleans up new and  
> used
> cars.  We always just give him eggs because he only makes $7/hour.  In
> 10 years, Rocky has never been out of work, but He laid out today.  I
> can pretty well tell you that Rocky wasn't out partying in the streets
> getting drunk.  I believe that he believes that he and his sister will
> be taken care of. <sigh>  If Rocky is buying into that, we are in real
> trouble, my friends.  I am angry with Obama for misleading decent
> hardworking black people.

Then, dear hearted as he maybe, Rocky is an ignorant schmuck. And  
decent hardworking PEOPLE should know better.


> I am also angry that I was not able to convince anyone to vote against
> Obama, either for a Libertarian or for McCain or another party/write  
> in.
>  I could not even convince my naive daughter, who believes that with
> Obama's help, she will be able to go back to school full-time.   So I
> feel like I failed her in that regard.


Ah, grasshopper.....maybe you couldn't convince them, because it was  
not what they felt they needed to do. Why was it your job to convince  
anyone? Maybe your reasons for feeling like you needed to convince  
anyone, AND that you couldn't, need to be more closely examined.


>  My fears of Socialistic change
> in this country have also led me to be angry about the future for my
> granddaughter.  I want her to be able to sit and write 1000 word or
> 10000 word dissertations against her President should she choose to do
> so.  I would like to have left this Homestead to my children, but I  
> fear
> that they will never own it because they won't be able to pay the  
> taxes.
>
> So that's as much of it as I have been able to figure out.
> I'm not leaving homestead just yet because it is my duty to be  
> vigilant.
>  I expect that that will cause problems, and for that I will apologize
> in advance, but perhaps you will try to understand that my search for
> what I feel is truth is my way of coming to terms with my feelings.
> Perhaps, while I am looking at Obama, I will see in him what Oprah  
> sees.
>  I doubt I will, but I promise that I will try to see things in a more
> positive light.
> In that vein, I have to share this..
> I have Fox on TV, A few minutes back Alan Colmes said (in good spirit)
> How did Liberals convince enough Conservative Americans to elect a
> Socialist like Barack Obama?..lol..


Because he's NOT a socialist. *sigh* You are a bigot on this, Bev.





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