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[EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net>]

I recall that, but not the specifics, sorry

rayzentz AT aim.com wrote:
> Hey, a question for you all.   I remember reading years ago about a 
> study on the awareness of plants, done with geraniums, I belive.   Part 
> of it included the researchers wiring up a plant, and then destroying 
> another one right beside it.   The plant did apparantly react.   
> Interestingly enough, that plant reacted similarly every time the 
> 'murdering" researcher came near it.
>
> Do any of you recall that, or ever heard of it.   I am having no 
> success finding it
>
> Ray
>
>
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> From: eureka AT hctc.net
> To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Thu, 9 Oct 2008 11:44 pm
> Subject: Re: [Homestead] Plant life ethics --for real
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>
> Bev,
>
> Sorry, I don't think I saw your initial post, I came in on
> Bob's and then read Ray's. I'll have to go back and look
> for yours to see what you said.
>
> As for egos, the people I've studied with don't recognize
> an individual plant ego, but more of a collective
> consciousness within a genus/species. So, they would say
> that all roses have one conscious mind, thistles another.
> I think individual plants can have personality, but from a
> life purpose standpoint they are working together from a
> collective.
>
> Stephen Harrod Buhner visited with many medicine men
> around the world in indigenous tribes and asked them how
> they new a certain plant was good for a certain ailment.
> They all said "the plants told me". Some of this goes back
> to the doctrine of signatures. For instance, most of the
> plants that treat cardiovascular problems are
> red-flowering, sedative plants are blue flowering, urinary
> tract yellow flowering, etc. By reading their form and
> noting where they grow you learn more about particular
> uses.
>
> Some of his interesting studies included how keystone
> plants "call" other plants into an ecosystem. Ironwood is
> one of those plants that sets up first and changes the
> environment and then the other desert plants follow. In
> college we called them pioneer and successional plants but
> we never got into the mechanics of how it happens. He also
> talks about the intelligence of plants as the original
> "chemical factories" with the ability to produce one
> substance in the day to attract one kind of pollinator,
> and another by night to attract a different one. When you
> start looking at these processes you begin to see plants
> do make choices.
>
> If you read Tompkins you will remember odd experiements
> where philodendrons were supposedly trained to open garage
> doors, etc. But Buhner's work is more accessible for the
> scientific mind and bridges the gap between it and what
> might be considered more esoteric. I do recommend the
> book.
>
> --Sage
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 00:41:57 -0400
>   EarthNSky <erthnsky AT bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > eureka AT hctc.net wrote:
> > > Bob,
> > >
> > > I do entirely agree with Ray, that plants have spirits,
> > > can experience satisfaction, and that they are happy in
> > > fulfilling their purpose.
> > Sage, just out of curiosity, what did I write that you
> > did not agree
> > with?  I believe plants have spirits, too.  I talk to
> > mine all the time.
> >  I have been known to stroke them lovingly as well.
> > However, I do not
> > think they have an ego, do you?
> >
> > Bev
> >
> >
> >
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