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  • From: bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>
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  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Republicans appear to be yesterday
  • Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 07:49:13 -0700 (PDT)

Most of this crap started with Clinton, and I still don't see how a lot of it
is constitutional.  I know that people don't like to discuss it anymore, but
I saw this coming after Ruby Ridge and Waco.  The government saw right then
if you were not exactly normal, it was okay to violate your rights, take your
land, imprison you, and even kill you, and no one would pay.  Those people
might have had some nutty ideas ( so do I, not like theirs, but not kosher to
some ) and even broken some stupid minor gun laws (so have I), but the
acceptance of their civil rights being openly violated under color of
authority, has led to even ACLU, type socialists like Obama voting IN FAVOR
of FISA. 
 
Starting in 18 days every passport will have a RFID chip.! ! !   You used to
be able to drive to Mexico, from here, and spend the weekend at Rocky Point
with nothing but a drivers license, now your every movement can be tracked
instantaneously, and will be recorded.  This is a big deal, but no one is
talking about this.
 
Starting this week, FBI agents, who don't have any more education or make any
more money than some on this list, can authorize themselves to surveil you,
on a good hunch. 
 
These things are frightening to me.  But no one else seems to care.  The
government has used first the threat of home-grown terrorism (silly militia
type) and now the threat of Islamic terrorism to change the meaning  and
intent of the Bill of Rights, and have destroyed the natural right to privacy
and intentional anonymity.
 
  College professors are indoctrinating students rather than teaching them
how to think in a rational manner.  Political talk has becoming nothing more
than a battle of propaganda full of lies and distortions, on both sides,
about, to me, relatively meaningless issues.
 
America is supposed to be about freedom.  Our culture was not designed about
capitalism, although that fits the freedom idea better than socialism.  Our
culture was not designed about collective well-being.  It was designed about
personal freedom.  Everything goes back to personal freedom and liberty.
But, no everyone is talking about who gives the most "nuanced" answer to some
ridiculous reporter's question.  None of the so-called journalists are asking
the right questions.  The questions and answers should start with the
destruction of our personal freedoms and then go to the fringe issues about
which all of us like to chat .  .........bobford



----- Original Message ----
From: Akka Homestead <akkabhomestead AT yahoo.com>
To: Homestead List <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:27:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Republicans appear to be yesterday



william Eggers wrote:
> This could be the last election, period.  Bush has signed a law that
> allows the president to suspend all elections and declare martial law
> when he feel it necessary.  Not when there in a national emergency,
> but when the president feel it necessary.
>
>

Hi William.  I think your post needs clarifying.  Feel free to add additional
comments to what I will make.  I know what I am going to do is a start and is
not complete.  Most of this is copied from other, government sources. 

On May 9, 2007 President George Bush reasserted the role of the Federal
government during a declared emergency by issuing Executive Order NSPD 51/
HSPD-20. The Order states that in the event of a ‘catastrophic emergency’ all
‘national essential functions’ may be taken over by the Executive branch of
government and the Department of Homeland Security (including FEMA). [20]

NSPD-51/HSPD-20 is a direct reformulation of Presidential Decision Directive
67 of October 21, 1998 (”Enduring Constitutional Government and Continuity of
Government Operations”). NSPD-51 basically recreates and replaces 67. It is
different in some function due to this falling under Homeland Security’s
jurisdiciton, but the primary goal of government continuity in the case of
national emergency.

http://fas.org/irp/offdocs/pdd/pdd-67.htm

Here are some previous executive orders going back a few years.  Many are
revoked or amended by now.  Many have been rolled into other documents. 
William, this is a very common "continuity of government" order that has been
around in one form or another since the Cold War or earlier.  Both parties
have enacted such orders over the years.
Not to worry Bush becoming a dictator.  A. He is not smart enough.  B. He
doesn't have the support he needs-even his own party has thrown him to the
wolves.


* EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of
transportation and control of highways and seaports.  Signed by JFK

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the
communication media.  Signed by JFK

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997 allows the government to take over all electrical
power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals. Signed by JFK

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to take over all food resources
and farms. Signed by JFK

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work
brigades under government supervision. (JFK)

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health,
education and welfare functions. (JFK)

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a
national registration of all persons. (JFK)

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and
aircraft, including commercial aircraft. (JFK)

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate
communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be
abandoned, and establish new locations for populations. (JFK)

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland
waterways and public storage facilities. (JFK)

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of
Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into
effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial
crisis. Revoked and superceded by EO#12148 see below

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310 grants authority to the Department of Justice to
enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial
support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all
aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and
assist the President. signed by LBJ

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal
departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued
over a fifteen year period. Revoked by 12553, signed by Ronald Reagan

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921 allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to
develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and
distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of
money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It
also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President,
Congress cannot review the action for six months.
Signed in by Gerald Ford

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 12148 created the Federal Emergency Management Agency
(FEMA) that is to interface with the Department of Defense for civil defense
planning and funding. An "emergency czar" was appointed. FEMA has only spent
about 6 percent of its budget on national emergencies, the bulk of their
funding has been used for the construction of secret underground facilities
to assure continuity of government in case of a major emergency, foreign or
domestic. Signed by Jimmy Carter

* EXECUTIVE ORDER 12656 appointed the National Security Council as the
principal body that should consider emergency powers. This allows the
government to increase domestic intelligence and surveillance of U.S.
citizens and would restrict the freedom of movement within the United States
and granted the government the right to isolate large groups of civilians.
The National Guard could be federalized to seal all borders and take control
of U.S. air space and all ports of entry. Many of the figures in the
Iran-Contra scandal were part of this emergency contingent, including Marine
Colonel Oliver North.  signed by Ronald Reagan

EXECUTIVE ORDER 13083 SIGNED BY CLINTON, replaced by 13095


The Violent Crime Control Act of 1991 provides additional powers to the
President of the United States, allowing the suspension of the Constitution
and Constitutional rights of Americans during a "drug crisis". It provides
for the construction of detention camps, seizure of property, and military
control of populated areas.





     
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