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[bob ford <bobford79 AT yahoo.com>]

Gene, I have been looking for an  expression  that sums up a true 
Libertarian's view of Democrats like Obama, Pelosi, & really, the Democrat 
party as an entity. 
 
The problem with the current Republicans is not that they are distinctive 
from Democrats; instead, it's that they have become just like them.
The opinion is mine, but the words are borrowed............bobford
 
 
 
2008 Democrat Party Credo:
 
I sit on a man's back, choking him and making him carry me, and yet assure 
myself and others that I am very sorry for him and wish to ease his lot by 
all possible means - except by getting off his back. 

Leo Tolstoy





----- Original Message ----
From: Gene GeRue <genegerue AT ruralize.com>
To: homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:00:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Republicans appear to be yesterday


On Sep 13, 2008, at 11:31 AM, Clansgian AT wmconnect.com wrote:

>  We either elect Obama or else
> we have been taken in by a Rovian campaign.  What of those of us who  
> abhor the
> socialism that Obama portents,

Please define socialism as you use it here.

I see Obama helping people help themselves.

You may profess to abhor it but you have lived with socialism under  
the administrations of both parties. You may continue to abhor it for  
the rest of your life but the greater populace wants the government to  
control more parts of their lives. We can debate the sense of it but  
most people want the government to provide security.

The current financial mess is largely the result of insufficient  
government control.

The best we can realistically hope for is balance. The so-called  
conservative party has spent us into substantial indebtedness for  
their programs. It is time for the pendulum to swing back the other  
way. 
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