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[Rob <becida AT comcast.net>]

Hello,

Seeing as your referring to your location ("near us", "where I live") 
it would be good to have that general area. You also mention using 
"discontinued models from Europe", are these used wind generators? Is 
there a problem with them? I have never thought of a "discontinued" 
discount wind generator before... The ones I've seen have been big 
suckers, heavy, expensive to move and to set up. Take some serious 
capital to get one to a site & up in the wind.
Someone scamming for the public dollar is a fact of life (way out in 
the open the last 7 years). I see it in ethanol subsidies and can't 
imagine why it would not be in wind power too but something to back 
that up would be nice also.

Down towards the bottom you discount everything else that I have ever 
heard of as being an answer for 'not enough oil' anymore. What are 
you trying to say with all this?

At  8/15/2008 04:26 AM,tom wrote:


> Wind is not the answer.  Solar isn't the answer.  Nuclear isn't the
> answer, biofuels aren't, hydrogen isn't.  Combined, these sources of
> energy don't come close to replacing the bang-for-buck (otherwise
> known as EROEI) oil has provided and we've become accustomed to.
> Nothing does,

In my world reality seems to be a blend of things, I have no black or 
white issues, it's all some shade of gray. I think that energy is 
like that, keeping in mind that the cheapest energy is the energy you 
don't use, past that every little bit helps.
Changes will come, that's how the world works but I think we can make 
this change (as oil becomes more expensive) somewhat gradually.
The stone age did not end because we ran out of stones, no doubt the 
sail makers were really unhappy to see steamships as were the buggy 
whip makers to see cars.


I really don't want to get off sounding crotchety this morning but I 
have never noticed you posting here before, you don't sign your post 
so we have to guess who you are, you don't provide any answers to anything.
You do infer scams, cheating poor people and no hope with the 
changing world energy situation. Sitting here writing this I've 
either embarrassed myself by picking on a 'new guy' or you are just 
trolling this list looking for a reaction.
The only thing close to 'homestead' related was the mention of 
possibly a wind generator for your own place, have you given any 
thought beyond 'possibly'?






Rob

becida AT comcast.net
Western Washington State, USA