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- From: "betsyshane AT gmail.com" <betsyshane AT gmail.com>
- To: ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: Local music... who decides?
- Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 08:38:14 -0800 (PST)
So, um, where were you all when I was writing my thesis?
I jest, I jest.
Everyone was talking about this last night at practice and I was like
"goody!" I love this sort of thing.
Favoritism seems like favoritism because well...they're the public's
favorite. People really like Red Collar right now. And Hammer No
More the Fingers. They consistantly bring in over 20 people to
shows. But if you follow bands from the get go, most bands don't
start out that way. There are some who just sort of rise, fully
formed out of Zeus's head (IWTDI) but actually, when you look at it,
the people involved in that band sorta did 'pay dues' already and so
they have relationships and fans already. I remember playing a show
with Red Collar where it was us, them, the bartenders and Chaz. Yes,
a whopping 3 people not in bands were at the show. Stuff like that
doesn't really make me mad, though, it kind of gives me hope. Like,
if RC could play empty venues last year and now be headlining at the
506, and drawing at the cradle, then maybe one day I can play those
places too, if I work hard and don't turn down any gigs (seriously,
I've got 2 whole non-musician fans now!), eventually I'll get to the
point where I'd feel comfortable asking the 506 for a show. But why
the hell would you want to play the 506 when you can't fill it? I'd
always prefer to weasel in with someone who already has a following
than be stupid enough to think I can pull one in. Especially if
you're playing on a night opposite some MAJOR show at another venue.
But anyway. Re: Musician's Workshop (RIP), the remnants are still
there and it'd be cool if venue owners put in comments of their own
for it, since, ya know, it's going to be sort of a resource.
The link is here:
http://musicworkshop.proboards83.com/
fill er up!
<3
bs
On Feb 7, 9:18 am, hepst... AT gmail.com (James Hepler) wrote:
> See, now that all sounds like the role of a TOUR manager. That I
> understand.
>
> On Feb 7, 2008 7:51 AM, Kelly <radiof... AT gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > hepst... AT gmail.com wrote:
> > -- I don't know what managers do.
>
> > after spending four years of booking "big" bands in college, my
> > experience was that the band manager was the essentially the
> > babysitter. Someone that could drop the news from the "label" on the
> > band in a way that they wouldn't freak... to do all the things that
> > normal people can do like say "I would like you to order me the
> > falafel wrap for dinner, thank you" ... and mostly to make sure that
> > the band doesn't get too loaded before the show and then to make sure
> > the band stays cool afterwards, gets all their shit and goes in the
> > right direction to the next gig.
>
> > Basically, if you have ever taught school and enjoyed every second of
> > (the controlling part of) it, or herded cats, or ran a BSDM Dungeon...
> > then you'll be perfect for it.
>
> > In fact. My dad's wife is his manager. I hate her. He has talent...
> > and she is a leech... and was a kindergarten teacher and treats all
> > around her like they are 5. BUT... she gets him places on time.
>
> > on the point about returning emails. None of us are perfect about
> > responding to emails. All of us freak out when we don't get a
> > response when we want. It happens.
>
> > When I get an email from a friend about their new baby, I try to
> > respond fairly quickly... because while I might not really give that
> > much of a shit... I know that you are totally delusional to think that
> > this is the most important thing to ever happen in the multi-verse.
>
> > Bands and their music are much like new parents.
>
> > And thank you, Herrgatterw=E4chter, for demonstrating my point of the
> > great measures you take to be transparent.
> > -- ch-scene: the list that mirrors alt.music.chapel-hill --
> >http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/ch-scene
>
> -- ch-scene: the list that mirrors alt.music.chapel-hill
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Re: Local music... who decides?
, (continued)
- Re: Local music... who decides?, Bryan . C . Reed, 02/06/2008
- Re: Local music... who decides?, local506, 02/06/2008
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Re: Local music... who decides?,
Garfield, 02/06/2008
- RE: Local music... who decides?, Brian English, 02/06/2008
- Re: Local music... who decides?, Kelly, 02/06/2008
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Re: Local music... who decides?,
hepstyle AT gmail.com, 02/06/2008
- Re: Local music... who decides?, Doug, 02/06/2008
- Re: Local music... who decides?, Mimi McLaughlin, 02/06/2008
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Re: Local music... who decides?,
Kelly, 02/07/2008
- Re: Local music... who decides?, James Hepler, 02/07/2008
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Re: Local music... who decides?,
betsyshane AT gmail.com, 02/07/2008
- Re: Local music... who decides?, grady, 02/07/2008
- Re: Local music... who decides?, James Hepler, 02/07/2008
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Re: Local music... who decides?,
betsyshane AT gmail.com, 02/07/2008
- Re: Local music... who decides?, James Hepler, 02/07/2008
- Re: Local music... who decides?, local506, 02/07/2008
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Re: Local music... who decides?,
eleni binge, 02/07/2008
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Re: Local music... who decides?,
Jeremy Blair, 02/07/2008
- Re: Local music... who decides?, Eric Mann, 02/07/2008
- Re: Local music... who decides?, local506, 02/07/2008
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Re: Local music... who decides?,
Jeremy Blair, 02/07/2008
- Re: Local music... who decides?, local506, 02/07/2008
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