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  • From: Kevin Grealey <kgrealey AT mckinney-silver.com>
  • To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking
  • Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:52:50 -0400



Coming in late, get the gist of the conversation, but I missed on The Pogues
cover band. What are they called? Do they exist? And when do they play?
That said, I'm still repulsed by that Shane MacGowan show at the Cradle back
in the day.


> From: David Bartholomew <dbartholomew AT gmail.com>
> Reply-To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:47:23 -0400
> To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking
>
> I prefer my danger to accompany a PBR not a rifle, I do love Pogue cover
> bands though...
>
> All I'm saying is that there is nothing wrong with a business
> courting/servicing smokers. Perhaps a sign that reads 'Smoking
> Establishment: Enter at your own risk' and a disclosure statement on all job
> applications and booking contracts that says the same legally.
>
> I'd still go to a non-smoking 506, and I'd understand any decision based on
> health or business reasons. Owners and customers should have a right to be
> either though, no? It's not a 'Right' to go to a non-smoking 506, is it?
>
> D
>
> ps: don't even try to peg me as a libertarian...
>
>
> On 8/22/07, grady <grady AT ibiblio.org> wrote:
>>
>> If you want danger, have you considered 1 weekend a month and 2 weeks a
>> year in your local National Guard? I hear smokes are cheap at the PX ;-)
>>
>> I don't even think it's the hardcore pack-a-day smokers like Hepler who
>> are the primary problem, it's the freaking "I only smoke when I go to
>> bars" smokers who don't even inhale, they just light the fucking thing
>> and then hold it at arm's length & periodically practice their
>> ash-flicking skills. There are probably 2 of them for every 1 Hepler.
>>
>> And the hardcore smokers are used to being forced to go stand in the
>> rain to smoke, because they've been doing it at work for years now. The
>> fashion smokers haven't had the opportunity to be trained . . .
>>
>> Hey Dave, how about we nonsmokers cede the Irish Pubs to you & your
>> smoking posse? I'd happily let you have the James Joyce and The Bull
>> McCabe's forever & ever amen. I hear the Joyce is even having bands now
>> & then nowadays . . .
>>
>> David Bartholomew wrote:
>>> I have to say...I don't find the smell factor to be a convincing reason
>> at
>>> all. Clear the smoke and the 506 is still going to smell like beer,
>> sweat,
>>> and piss. The health factors on the other hand are pretty straight
>> forward.
>>>
>>> So..if you are going to do it for health reasons, you pretty much have
>> to
>>> ban smoking, not limit it to the bar. I can't imagine that passing
>> through
>>> that small space for drinks, bathroom use, and enter/exit can be much
>>> better for your lungs/heart.
>>>
>>> As a smoker, it is a bit sad to see all of these places go non-smoking.
>>> Where's the danger? Can't we have a rock club too? Can't the non-smokers
>>> stay home? If you can't smoke at the 506 at 1 am on a Friday night than
>>> where can you smoke FFS?
>>>
>>> There certainly are reasons to stay a smoking club and all of you
>>> non-smokers know what you risk upon entry. Regardless, it is going to
>> happen
>>> sooner or later anyways (even in NC) and it probably does make business
>>> sense. Maybe James and I should just finally quit.
>>>
>>> D
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/22/07, Lisa Bachelder <lisa AT fuzzsonic.com> wrote:
>>>> Finally. Baking AND rock. My dream job.
>>>>
>>>> <sigh>
>>>>
>>>> lb
>>>>
>>>> grady wrote:
>>>>> But what if Glenn installed a little oven and just actually *baked*
>>>>> cookies on & off throughout the evening? How many of y'all would be
>>>>> irresistibly drawn to spend $1 on a piping-hot chocolate-chip cookie
>> at
>>>>> 1:00 a.m.?
>>>>>
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