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- From: Duncan Murrell <dvmurrell AT nc.rr.com>
- To: RTP-area local music and culture <ch-scene AT lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking
- Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2007 10:40:48 -0400
On Aug 22, 2007, at 10:05 AM, Doug Sutton wrote:
Part of the problem is that smokers, by definition, don't know what its
like to not smoke.
Not true. Not only was I not born with a cigarette in my mouth, but I can go whole hours without one.
And while they usually don't think about it, the
facts are that cigarettes are drugs, and most people smoke not because
they like it, but because they can't stop.
How would you know this, non-smoker? Have you ever had a Nat Sherman? I happen to like it a lot. I like the smell, I like the shapes the smoke makes in the air, I like fact that it drives away people I don't want talking to me.
And the cloud at the 506
every night there are 50 people there IS poisonous.
Probably true. Also, my water is poisonous here in Pittsboro, the poultry plant down the street smells like hell, and all of you people who drive cars to work every day (I don't) are poisoning my fucking air and killing my plants.
I don't think smokers are bad people.
Sure you do. The "some of my best friends are _____" locution is a dead giveaway.
I'm happy for smokers to do their
thing, in their own space,
Which would be where? For instance, if there are ten smokers in a bar, and you walk in, is it your bar or their bar? And if you get drunk on the drug alcohol, you fiend, and act like an asshole, should I punch you? I do apologize for throwing down ethical questions before your third cup of coffee.
but why in crowded public places, where it's
obnoxious and harmful.
What isn't a public place, in your view? And what's "crowded"? And if it's mostly smokers in the crowd, who wins?
Having said all that, you know very well that smokers around here have been very accommodating to the new standard, and I don't know a smoker who much complains anymore about taking it outside, or into designated areas away from others. But name-calling and sanctimony make it harder to stick with that program, I have to say.
Please let me know what shows you'll be attending so I can avoid them.
d
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Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking
, (continued)
- Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking, Duncan Murrell, 08/22/2007
- Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking, Todd Morman, 08/23/2007
- Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking, Kevin Grealey, 08/22/2007
- Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking, Kevin Browning, 08/22/2007
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Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking,
Doug Sutton, 08/22/2007
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Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking,
James Hepler, 08/22/2007
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Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking,
grady, 08/22/2007
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Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking,
James Hepler, 08/22/2007
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Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking,
Doug Sutton, 08/22/2007
- Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking, James Hepler, 08/22/2007
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Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking,
Duncan Murrell, 08/22/2007
- Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking, Kevin Browning, 08/22/2007
- Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking, James Hepler, 08/22/2007
- Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking, Megan Anderson, 08/22/2007
- Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking, Chris Calloway, 08/22/2007
- Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking, Megan Anderson, 08/22/2007
- Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking, James Hepler, 08/22/2007
- Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking, James Hepler, 08/22/2007
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Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking,
Doug Sutton, 08/22/2007
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Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking,
James Hepler, 08/22/2007
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Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking,
grady, 08/22/2007
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Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking,
James Hepler, 08/22/2007
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Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking,
Chris Rossi, 08/22/2007
- Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking, James Hepler, 08/22/2007
- Re: Local 506 vs. Smoking, Todd Morman, 08/23/2007
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