development of an education license or license option for Creative Commons

["Heather Ford" <heather AT gn.apc.org>]

What a wonderful reunion! So glad that this is back on track :)
And now that I've been in contact with a number of educational institutions, 
I think I have much more valuable feedback :)

I want to echo what Zachery has said. The main sticking point amongst 
different educators is *not* the non-commercial vs commercial aspect but 
rather whether to allow *derivatives* or not. I've had numerous debates with 
different organisations about this. The portal www.thutong.org.za wants to 
allow its authors to choose whether they want to allow derivatives or not; 
while http://link.wits.ac.za wants to prevent derivatives but to allow 
translations and adaptation for use by sensory disabled persons. 
www.tsf.org.za wants to use the by-NC-SA for all its grantees.

Speaking to lawyers involved in cc here, it looks as though you could use 
the no-derivatives licence but add a proviso to allow translations and 
adaptation for use by sensory disabled persons. Which you might want to do 
if you decide to have 2 options i.e. CC-EDU or CC-EDU PLUS+ as they've done 
with the cc sampling licenses.

That said, people can always choose another licence if they don't want to go 
with the By-NC-SA license as cc-EDU, so I'm happy with whatever decision cc 
takes on this :)

I also wanted to take the opportunity to invite you all to a conference 
where we'll be discussing some of these issues - 'Commons-sense: Towards an 
African Digital Information Commons' takes place in Johannesburg from 25-27 
May (see www.commons-sense.org). There are scholarships available if you'd 
like to apply.

Best wishes,

Heather.

Heather Ford
LINK Centre Associate
Phone: +27 11 717 3914
Cell: +27 82 872 7374

'Commons-sense: Towards an African Digital Commons'
www.commons-sense.org
May 25-27, Johannesburg

Creative Commons South Africa
http://za.creativecommons.org




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Zachary Chandler" <zechandl AT colby.edu>
To: <david.wiley AT usu.edu>; "development of an education license or license 
option for Creative Commons" <cc-education AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 2:39 AM
Subject: Re: [cc-education] A new hope for cc.edu


> David,
>
> Great news. I had been wondering where cc.edu went since our voting round.
> Thanks for your efforts on this project, and thanks also for making the 
> process
> as democratic and responsive as you have.
>
> Philospohically I am still with the prevailing group consensus of 
> by-nc-sa, the
> copyleft and remix ethos that makes CC great. However, I have had another 
> year
> (or so) of working with faculty on creative projects, on my own small 
> campaign
> for spreading the word about creative commons. It's my duty to report that 
> a
> good portion of faculty (at a small liberal arts college) are not ready 
> for
> Share-Alike, and prefer ND.
>
> I am encouraged that many faculty across the curriculum are well-versed in
> copyright issues, and many have stories of how it has gotten in the way. I
> think that the climate is ripe for CC adoption. Should we keep an ND 
> opt-out in
> the .edu license? It seems reasonable to me that we can get folks started 
> with
> ND who might otherwise reject the CC concept.
>
> Sorry if this is an eleventh hour wrench in the werks...
>
> best,
> Zach
>
> ==================================
> Zachary Chandler
> Language Technology Consultant
> Director, Language Resource Center
> Colby College
> Waterville, Maine 04901
> http://www.colby.edu/lrc/
> http://studio.colby.edu/
> zechandl AT colby.edu
> 207.872.3898
>
>
> Quoting David Wiley <david.wiley AT gmail.com>:
>
> > Back in August of 2003 I proposed that rather than create a new
> > education license, <a
> href="https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/cc-education/2003-August/000058.html";>we
> > rebrand the By-NC-SA license as the cc.edu</a>. The idea had lots of
> > traction on the list - <a
> href="https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/cc-education/2003-October/000075.html";>Stephen
> > even agreed eventually</a> ;) - as did many others (see <a
> > href="https://lists.ibiblio.org/sympa/arc/cc-education/";>August -
> > December 2003 posts</a>).  However, because of some push back from CC
> > about rebranding as  a strategy, the discussion moved another
> > direction and to the frustration of many eventually fizzled out.
> >
> > The rebranding strategy has become increasingly common for CC  (c .f.
> > the new wiki license beta), and rebranding is now an option for us. I
> > therefore propose we rebrand the By-NC-SA as the Creative Commons
> > Education License, and create a special commons deed for anyone using
> > the license (i.e., add some contextual language to the human readable
> > part of the license - e.g., the way the new <a
> > href="http://creativecommons.org/drafts/wiki_0.5";>wiki license
> > beta</a> has been handled).
> >
> > Thoughts?
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