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On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 baslinux AT lists.ibiblio.org wrote:

> Message from Steven
> ===================
> Sindi wrote:
> > forcing me to use a mouse until I get xmodmap
> > and a map copied to the free space on disk 2,
>
> There's no need to copy xmodmap.  It's already
> part of BL3.  See: /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap

Thanks.

> > modules are too large for the free space
>
> I think there's now more free space on the
> second floppy:  51kb.  Is that enough?
> Otherwise you could unpack disk2.tgz, delete
> the modules you don't need, add the modules
> you want, repack it and copy it to disk 2.

2.2.26 lucent modules (by Stephen Clement?):
lt_modem.o 415251
lt_serial.o 23633

(2.2.16 modules are even larger)

Our latest laptop is a Compaq Presario with onboard lucent 56K modem, and 
some crazy Cyrix cpu that is rated 233MHz but controls sound, video, and 
memory which slows it to 120MHz actual.  I think it has OSS-compatible 
sound (CS?).  We put in our 500MB hd (hd and cage were missing) and it is 
overkill for BL3, even compiling.  Someone upgraded it to 96MB RAM.


> > I see there is a video item on the menu which
> > lists other modes, but no obvious suggestion
> > that I noticed of how to set up with them.
> > Maybe I missed that.  (I know I can edit Xconfig,
> > but is that option listed in the jwm menu some
> > place?).
>
> Edit settings > Xvesa parameters

I missed that.  But why not have more options in Xsetup?
I know older laptops only do 640 or 800 resolution but I use the floppy 
disk version in friends' desktop computers.

> > Could I use the lucent and ethernet modules and
> > msmtp and xmodmap from a third floppy disk if I
> > have enough RAM?

> You've got 1.3mb available on the current ramdisk.

msmtp glibc is only 60K (no encryption).  Maybe I can make that much space 
on disk2 (by deleting some module) for a libc5 version when I get it 
compiled.  226K for the static version.

That and lucent modules should fit in 1.3MB.

Did you suggest putting extra modules and executables on a third disk, 
somewhere on the BL page or in the readme file from the fd zip file?

> If you need more, you can create an additional
> 4mb ramdisk:
> --------------------------------------
> mke2fs /dev/ram2 4096
> mount -t ext2 /dev/ram2 /usr/local/bin
> --------------------------------------
> In the above example, I mounted the ramdisk at
> /usr/local/bin so that it would be in the PATH,
> but you can mount it anywhere (/mnt /tmp /hd
> or wherever you want).

Is this some place in the instructions or the jwm menu?

I will try this now from ext2 BL2.

mke2fs /dev/ram0 4096

Does the kernel allow 4096 as the maximum size ramdisk, and can I make 
more than one extra ramdisk?  I tried 8192 and got 'Filesystem larger than 
apparently filesystem size'.  My BL2 kernel is modeled on yours with the 
same ramdisk settings.

It tells me (1 sec to do this):

Filesystem label=
OS type: Linux
Block size=1024 (log=0)
1024 inodes, 4096 blocks
(etc.)
Writing inode tables:  done
Writing superblocks (etc.)

I already had a /usr/local/bin (in BL2).  'ls' lists the files which were 
already there.

How do I copy files to ramdisk?  Do I do anything special, or does this 
just make more space to copy executables to (cp msmtp /usr/local/bin)?  I 
think I could also copy modules to /usr/local/bin and then insmod 
/usr/local/bin/lt_modem.o (including the path and the .o).  Or just run 
programs and insmod modules from /mnt or specify the path.

> > Next project is to set up to compile for libc5.
>
> There are several messages in the archives about
> doing this.  If you can't find them, let me know
> and I go over it again.

I had BL1 compiling on a laptop with 12MB RAM.  Worked fine to compile a 
kermit without ncurses.

Do you or anyone else want to compile libc5 msmtp (small, no encryption, 
just for ISPs that now insist on SMTP authorization) and maybe a larger 
nano as BL3-50 add-ons for the FD version?  I use glibc versions in ext2 
BL3.

First I want to add Opera 8 to BL3.50.  Something went wrong when I last 
tried.  Ldd was missing some X libraries that were there.  I had added the 
glibc ones from BL3.40 where it all worked, rather than your libc5 ones. 
Do you have Opera 8 working with BL3.50 yet?


My partner asks about putting extra files on his USB flash drive (or 
camera).  I will check if David Moberg's 1-floppy USB linux can make an 
extra 4MB ramdisk (or two) so we can copy files to it from a flash drive 
instead of chrooting to a loop linux on the flash drive.

Sindi

> Cheers,
> Steven