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[sindi keesan <keesan AT sdf.lonestar.org>]

On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, David Moberg wrote:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "sindi keesan" <keesan AT sdf.lonestar.org>
>
> > > wget -O - http://audio.ibiblio.org:8000/wdav-24k| mpg123 -   works
> >
> >
> > Much of the time, even in the middle of the day, I still get 504
> > busy messages at this site but if I 'attack dial' after 2-3 tries I
> > get through.  I just keep hitting the up arrow to repeat my
> > previous command but one time I got a '404 not found'.  Odd.
>
> That server's going to have a short lifespan, if it's _that_ overloaded.
> It must be a very popular station.
>
> I just tried using wget on that URL. I got a good connection on all three
> tries. Perhaps ibiblio is trying to cut costs by hosting many things on
> one server?
Only classical station I could find at 20K, mono.

> > The problem is that I keep losing the station - when there is too
> > big a cutout it seems to time out or something and I have to start
> > over.  1-2 sec is okay, it comes back.  Has been okay now for a
> > minute, no gaps.
> >
> > It is not ideal to listen with frequent gaps but the quality is
> > quite a bit better otherwise than a hissy station from 75 miles
> > away broadcast over the air.
>
> Do you know if it's mpg123 or wget that's timing out? wget has a
> -T option which lets you adjust the timeout in seconds.

BL2 busybox wget does not have this option.  I should install the full 
wget some time.  I think it is mpg123 that is timing out, anyway I get a 
message from mpg123 when it runs out of things to play.  I could try 
without wget some time during frequent timeouts.

> > > This approach does NOT work (nothing happens) with stations of the format
> > >
> > > http://www.live365.com/play/kcme, but plain mpg123 works on them.
>
> I just tried that. It works here. For some strange reason, the server says
> that it's a 44MB file, instead of an unlimited one.

You must have a better wget than I do.  I will get another and try again 
but first I have to find a way to extract a scanned image from a .doc 
file.  Good time to get Abiword working in BL2 with xvesa - I could not 
manage to use it with chroot to BL3.  Antiword produces a ps file that 
crashes X and which bmv (svgalib) displays as a blank.  I asked 
specifically for png, gif, pbm, or pdf.  I got doc, 1.7MB of it.

If you want to compile something useful, how about wvware for Bl2 and BL3? 
I have an old DOS version that has succeeded on WORD files which catdoc 
and antiword could not handle.  It requires downloading at least two files 
of source code.  I can try it myself but am set up with 2.2.5 not 2.1.3.

> > David, thanks for all the help with this and let me know if you
> > have other ideas for buffering.  This will help keep the office
> > temperature down slightly if I listen to streaming MP3 in the
> > summer instead of the radio.
>
> I don't understand how this cools things down. Last time I checked,
> a PC puts out more heat than a radio.

The PC is already running when I am online.  My TTL monitor is not too 
hot.

> > I have a pair of nice Spacetech
> > battery-operated speakers that work without a battery and the
> > default volume (the battery is used to decrease vol) is fine for
> > this station

> I can't stop listening to this station (kcme). :) Currently listening
> to it on the stereo+subwoofer speaker set which I got for Xmas. You
> can definitely tell that it's a low-bandwidth mp3, but it sounds nice.
> I can hear all of the instruments (strings, cello, some kind of woodwind).
> The higher pitched strings sound somewhat like white noise. The cello
> sounds great.

Yes, it is a nice station.  I also liked wdav.  wuol had good music but 
seemed to lose bits more often.  kuhf may be an opera-only station.  wmnr 
tends to the modern.  There are lots more stations listed at that 
publicradiofan site I mentioned but most are 56K.  And www.live365.com has 
plenty of stations - can you get it working if you sign in and use 
Mozilla?  change kcme to whrb to get a 56K station.

> > but does slackware provide some vol control and if so
> > in what packages?  Not in sox (which has play for wav files), or
> > mp3 (mpg123) or workbone (cd player), all in /ap1.
>
> aumix is a good choice. You can use it in X11 or from ncurses. It
> should be in some package. I'm not sure which.
>
> > wdav has been behaving very nicely and plays only good music.  (I
> > spoke too soon, more frequent cutouts).
>
> I got a couple of cutouts when I first started listening to kcme. It's
> been playing perfectly ever since. ifconfig reports that I'm getting it
> at 4KB/sec, give or take.

That is more than my 4200 connection can probably handle.  It claims to be 
32K broadcast.

> Woops. I take that perfect playback part back. About 30 seconds ago it
> cut out with white noise for about a second. It's been perfect since
> then.
Lucky you.  Thanks for helping me find it.

Too many new toys, as usual.  Still working on netpbm package and the 
parport zip project but I need to un-doc a translation first.

> David
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