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[Sindi Keesan <keesan AT iamjlamb.com>]

On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 3aoo-cvfd AT dea.spamcon.org wrote:

> Sindi Keesan wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for ftp.  Where do I look for sftp?  
> 
> I'll probably include ssh.  I think sftp might be part 
> of ssh.

How do you transfer files with sftp or ssh?  
Ssh sounds like a good idea.  Several people at my bbs have complained 
that they can no longer reach some computers without it.  Telnet won't 
work in those cases.

> I was planning for BL3 to start in CLI.  Execute startx
> to go to the GUI (first time you execute startx runs the
> configuration routine).
> 
> > I presume 'X' means Xvesa 
> 
> Yes.
> 
> > how much space does Xvesa, icewm, and xterm take up 
> > all together?
> 
> Around 2mb (including all necessary libraries).

What size RAM disk would this necessitate?  
 
> > What applications would you have 
> 
> Perhaps an email client?  Wordprocessor?  File manager?
> I haven't gotten that far.  It will depend on how tight
> the space is at that point.  

You could save some space again by using e3 instead of nano.
If you can compile so e3pi runs without tail, or get it to work with 
busybox tail,  that would save another 24K, assuming you want to make life 
easy for people used to using pico.

I still have not figured out the BL2 email program - I keep forgetting how 
to use it and I don't think there is any way to send attachments.

 
> > the ones currently included with your BL2-X packages 
> > (calculator, clock)? 
> 
> Does anybody actually use those?  They are quite small
> so I could easily include them, but are they worth it?
> Which of those little X programs do people actually use?
> If any of you guys want one of those in in BL3, please
> let me know.

Only programs I have used recently in X are Opera, XV, and once in a  
while Kermit if I want a scroll buffer.  Xpdf is too slow, I will go back 
to using DOS gs with psview instead.  None of these will fit in RAMdisk.
Nor will Abiword.

What do you expect people to use X for on a RAMdisk?  Links graphical?
Running CLI programs in windows?

Will you offer the option of a larger RAM disk so that more X programs 
will fit, and maybe a third floppy disk that is optional at boot time, 
containing the X programs?

All of our desktop computers have at least 16M RAM.  We have one laptop 
with 12M RAM that would run linux if it could be made to function.  
Do any current users want to run X on something with 8M RAM?

I thought the plural of 'you' was 'you guys' only in my part of the world 
(Michigan and nearby states).  

> 
> Cheers,
> Steven
> 
> 
> 
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