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[sindi keesan <keesan2 AT cyberspace.org>]

On Thu, 17 Apr 2003 qwms-avib AT dea.spamcon.org wrote:

> sindi keesan wrote:
> > 
> > Does Linux Opera work without a mouse (unlike Linux Netscape)?
> 
> I used my mouse.  However, I did notice that hitting keys 
> seemed to do things.

Can you access the main menu at page top?  In Linux Netscape 4 none of the
letters are underlined, so Alt-F does not get to File.  If you use the
mouse to get to File, you still cannot arrow down to menu items.

> 
> > Are there any noticeable differences from the Win95 version?
> 
> I've never used the Win95 version.
The Win95 version is smaller than the Linux version - 3.2M (non-Java).

> 
> > Where do they hide 5.05?
> 
> -----------------------------------------
> http://arc.opera.com/pub/opera/linux/505/
> -----------------------------------------

I found it, along with 5.0  6.0 6.1 6.1 6.3 and 6.10.  

5.05 is 2.9M static (tp1)

6.00 comes in two varieties - tpi  (3.9M) and final (4.6M)
Later versions come only in final (6.03 - 4.7M)

What are tp1 and final?

Would it be worth trying 6.0-6.3 to see if there is the same crashing
problem as with 6.11?  


>From the Opera FAQ:

Opera crashes

   Platform: All Windows versions

[I did not find anything for the Linux versions]

   When a program crashes (suddenly shuts down), this is usually caused
   by bugs in the software. It can also be caused by conflicts between
   programs and even bad/buggy drivers or hardware.

[Steven, have you tried Opera 6.11 on just one computer?  Could it be a
hardware-related problem?]

   If Opera crashes and you would like to contact us about it, please
   remember to gather as much information as possible:
     * Can you reproduce the crash?
     * Do you experience general instability with your system?
     * If you are using Windows 9x/Me  .....................

   If the crash occurs in a file which has to do with your graphics card,
   you should upgrade your drivers.

   "GDI.EXE" errors are also related to graphics, and can generally be
   fixed by setting hardware acceleration a but lower (try below 50%
   first). This is usually done in the Control panel in Windows, under
   System, and then Advanced/Graphics.

   It is important that you also include the version number, and
   preferrably the build number. See Help > About Opera.

   It is also possible that other users have experienced the same
   problems and may have a solution. You can communicate with other Opera
   users in several ways:

   [25]www.opera.com/communicate

   Opera's [26]newsgroups are a good place to go for information and
   help. There are many active users who both share ideas and help each
   other with problems. The news server address is:

   [27]news.opera.com


[Is it worth asking other users about the Slackware 7.1 incompatibility
with Opera 6.11?]

I did some more poking around the FAQ, looking for differences between
versions.  Some bad news (for me, anyway), is that Opera 6 was the first
version to support Unicode.  Netscape 4 does not do Unicode either.  Lynx
(and maybe Links?) does Unicode.  I am not sure if Lynx 2.8.3 (for
Slackware 7.1) does Unicode - 2.8.4 (glibc6 2.2.5) does.  Their workaround
for Opera 5 might be more work than upgrading the library (which would
also let me use the newer version of Lynx).  Especially since it would
need to be translated from Windows to Linux.  

Perhaps the bug in Opera 6.11 is not found in 6.0.  I have a friend with a
DSL line and can download and try several versions.  Would I want the tp1
or the final version of 6.0?

>From the FAQ:
Unicode support in Opera

   Platform: All platforms

   Unicode is the technology needed to automatically switch between and
   show some character sets for languages such as Russian, Polish, Greek,
   Hebrew, Japanese, and Chinese.

   For Unicode support, you need Opera 6 or newer (or Opera 5.2 for QNX).

   If your system does not have the proper fonts installed already,
   installing a Unicode font will allow you to view pages in your
   language of choice by downloading Unicode fonts:
     * [24]Unicode fonts for Windows computers

   INFORMATION FOR OPERA 5 (and older) USERS

   Opera 5 (and older) does not support Unicode.

   You can, however, use older versions of Opera to view some of these
   characters sets in this manner:
     * Under File > Preferences > Documents, select a Font that will
       support the language which you want to view.
     * Make this selection for each type of text listed in the "User
       fonts and colors" selection area (if you want all the type sizes
       on the page to be in the same encoding).
     * Make sure to select the proper "Script" setting in the lower right
       corner of the "Font" dialog box. For example, some web pages are
       written using Cyrillic CP1251, and some are written using
       KOI8-R... so you will need a compatible font for each of these
       encodings to view Russian web pages. And you will have to manually
       change Opera's Fonts under "Documents" every time you come across
       a page with a different encoding.

[Does the Linux version of Opera 5.05 actually have these settings?]


   Alternately, since changing all of the text types is a big chore, you
   can create additional .INI files for Opera, and save them under
   different names. Then create shortcuts to the Opera program that point
   to your new .INI settings files, so that when you open Opera, Opera
   uses these chosen settings. To do so, follow the instructions below:
     * Open Opera, go to File > Preferences > Documents. In the "User
       fonts and colors" selection area, set all the Font choices to
       enable the language of you choice. Click "OK".
     * Then, make a copy of the file named "OPERA.INI" and save it under
       another name, for example "RUSSIAN.INI" ("OPERA.INI" will be found
       in your Opera directory. You can use Windows Explorer or File
       Manager to find "OPERA.INI").
     * Now, create a new shortcut to Opera on the desktop or in the Start
       menu. Make sure that the file path to the executable program (also
       called the command line) is enclosed in quotes, and add the file
       path to your new .INI file to the end of the Command line. For
       example: C:\Program Files\Opera\Opera.exe C:\windows\Russian.ini

   There will still only be one Opera program on your computer... It will
   simply have different settings when you start it with the alternative
   shortcuts.