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Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!
- From: "Jerry Shepherd" <jerry.shepherd AT taylor-edu.ca>
- To: "Chris and Nel" <wattswestmaas AT eircom.net>, "B-Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT lists.Ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!
- Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2006 11:19:05 -0600
Hi Chris,
I understand your confusion. But this is actually a fairly standard way
Hebrew narrative talks about “being” in the past – by the use of hayah,
either in the perfect or with wc+impf. Without it, the sentence could
mistakenly be taken as present.
Jerry
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Subject: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!
Judges 16:30
Sorry Folks, but for those who are bemused at my 'daft'? question please
allow me to indulge. For someone who is still young at the art of trying
to understand the hundreds of ways to translate without looking at the
english, YES, Judges 16:30, does present a minor confusion for me. The
context and the word RaBaH (many) seem to me to translate just as well
without the verb "to be"? Now it is obvious that I am utterly wrong - that
I
know! There are myriads of sentences where the verb "to be" is not used and
yet 'known and correctly assumed' from the translation. My problem is that
beginning this particular sentence with that verb actually threw me off
course, when I continued to translate it as if the verb was not there then
to my shock I actually translated it correctly (Mmmm, now that's a miracle).
This shows that I am doing something wrong (even though I got the answer
correct). I am so used to
reading sentences without "to be " in them that I still can not fathom its
purpose here, considering that without it I actually arrived at the correct
translation without looking at the English.
Now can someone be kind enough pleeeease..... to relieve me of my making a
fool of
myself on this board?
Chris
Ireland.
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[b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!,
Chris and Nel, 10/03/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!, Peter Kirk, 10/03/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, Chris's PROBLEM!, Lisbeth S. Fried, 10/03/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!,
Yitzhak Sapir, 10/03/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!, Peter Kirk, 10/06/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!,
Yonah Mishael, 10/03/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!,
B. M. Rocine, 10/04/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!,
Yonah Mishael, 10/04/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!, B. M. Rocine, 10/04/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!,
Yonah Mishael, 10/04/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!,
B. M. Rocine, 10/04/2006
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!, Jerry Shepherd, 10/03/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!,
kgraham0938, 10/03/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!, B. M. Rocine, 10/03/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!, Peter Kirk, 10/06/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!,
kgraham0938, 10/05/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!, K Randolph, 10/05/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!,
B. M. Rocine, 10/05/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!,
Yonah Mishael, 10/05/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!, Yonah Mishael, 10/05/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!, B. M. Rocine, 10/05/2006
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Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!,
Yonah Mishael, 10/05/2006
- Re: [b-hebrew] Judges 16:30 - Verb with no use, MY PROBLEM!, kgraham0938, 10/05/2006
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