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- From: Herman Meester <crazymulgogi AT gmail.com>
- To: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Zech 6:8
- Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 10:44:00 +0100
In my opinion all difficulties go away when we take the hif(il of Z(Q
as a denominative of Z(QH ze`aqa, so litt. "to utter a cry". This
happens in other hif`ils too.
Herman
2005/11/27, Steve Miller <smille10 AT sbcglobal.net>:
> >
> >HH: "To cause me to hear a call for help" might be "to cry out to me."
> >
> SM: Why would the angel, who speaks as God, call desperately for Zechariah's
> help?
>
>
> HH: You are not consistent with the usage of the
> verb elsehwhere. I have two other lexicons, which
> also agree with HALOT, BDB and DCH (Dictionary of
> Classical Hebrew)..
>
> SM: The qal verb Z`Q always means to cry for help. The niphal always means
> to be gathered together for an emergency. The hiphil has 2 meanings: to call
> together for an emergency (exactly the active form of the niphal) or to
> cause to cry out for help. Where is the inconsistency?
>
> >HH:"He caused me to hear a cry."
> >
>
> SM: Why is the angel crying for help?
>
>
> >HH: This could be equivalent to "He summoned"
> >me, as Kelton said, or "He implored me,"
> >"alerted me," "signaled me."
>
> SM: For what emergency is the angel summoning Zechariah? Implored, alerted
> and signaled seem to be getting farther away from the meaning of Z`Q.
>
> The more I study Z`Q and Zech 6, the more I think that "and it [or he]
> caused me to cry out." Is the only way to translate the beginning of Zech
> 6:8.
>
> -Steve Miller
> Detroit
>
>
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[b-hebrew] Zech 6:8,
Steve Miller, 11/19/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Zech 6:8,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 11/19/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Zech 6:8,
Steve Miller, 11/20/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Zech 6:8,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 11/20/2005
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[b-hebrew] Unicode Hebrew on Mac, was: Zech 6:8,
Peter Kirk, 11/21/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Unicode Hebrew on Mac, was: Zech 6:8,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 11/21/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Unicode Hebrew on Mac, was: Zech 6:8, Peter Kirk, 11/21/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Unicode Hebrew on Mac, was: Zech 6:8,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 11/21/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Zech 6:8,
Steve Miller, 11/26/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Zech 6:8, Herman Meester, 11/27/2005
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[b-hebrew] Unicode Hebrew on Mac, was: Zech 6:8,
Peter Kirk, 11/21/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Zech 6:8,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 11/20/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Zech 6:8,
Steve Miller, 11/20/2005
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- Re: [b-hebrew] Zech 6:8, Harold R. Holmyard III, 11/20/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Zech 6:8,
Harold R. Holmyard III, 11/19/2005
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- [b-hebrew] Fwd: Zech 6:8, Herman Meester, 11/21/2005
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
- Re: [b-hebrew] Zech 6:8, kgraham0938, 11/20/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Zech 6:8,
Steve Miller, 11/20/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Zech 6:8, Harold R. Holmyard III, 11/20/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Zech 6:8, Steve Miller, 11/20/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Zech 6:8,
kgraham0938, 11/21/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Zech 6:8, Steve Miller, 11/26/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Zech 6:8, Herman Meester, 11/21/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Zech 6:8, David Kummerow, 11/22/2005
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