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@Steve:

Well, I'd imagine you could not say " he caused me to cry out" because the 
first singular pronoun is a direct object.  So if you want to take it as a 
causative, you would get something like

"and he caused a cry to me." which is probably best rendered " and he 
summoned me."

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Kelton Graham 
KGRAHAM0938 AT comcast.net

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> The first part of Zech 6:8, åÇéÌÇæÀòÅ÷ àÉúÄé, is mostly translated “And he 
> cried out to me”, which translates the hiphil verb as though it was qal. 
> And 
> treats the àÉúÄé as an indirect object rather than a direct object. 
> 
> 
> 
> A few translations (Jubilee2000, YLT, Stone Tanach) translate it, as “And 
> he called me” which is similar to the way the hiphil verb is translated in 
> Judges 4:10 & 13. 
> 
> 
> 
> Why doesn’t any translation translate it as, “and it [or He] caused me to 
> cry out” which seems to be the most straightforward and the most 
> meaningful? 
> This would attach the first part of verse 8 to the end of verse 7. The 
> strong horses going to & fro through the earth in verse 7 caused Zechariah 
> to cry out due to the great suffering caused by the strong horses. 
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you, 
> 
> -Steve Miller, 
> 
> Detroit 
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Steve,

While your translation is possible, the following "and he spoke to me" tends 
to confirm the usual "and he called to me" or something like it. When in 
doubt (and in any case!), look at the context.

Yigal


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Subject: [b-hebrew] Zech 6:8


> The first part of Zech 6:8, åÇéÌÇæÀòÅ÷  àÉúÄé, is mostly translated “And 
> he
> cried out to me”, which translates the hiphil verb as though it was qal. 
> And
> treats the àÉúÄé as an indirect object rather than a direct object.
>
>
>
> A few translations (Jubilee2000, YLT, Stone Tanach)  translate it, as “And
> he called me” which is similar to the way the hiphil verb is translated in
> Judges 4:10 & 13.
>
>
>
> Why doesn’t any translation translate it as, “and it [or He] caused me to
> cry out” which seems to be the most straightforward and the most 
> meaningful?
> This would attach the first part of verse 8 to the end of verse 7. The
> strong horses going to & fro through the earth in verse 7 caused Zechariah
> to cry out due to the great suffering caused by the strong horses.
>
>
>
> Thank you,
>
> -Steve Miller,
>
> Detroit
>
> _______________________________________________
> b-hebrew mailing list
> b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
> http://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/b-hebrew
>
>