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- From: "Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>
- To: "George F Somsel" <gfsomsel AT juno.com>
- Cc: b-hebrew AT lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 7
- Date: Fri, 08 Apr 2005 12:37:03 -0500
George:
Besides this list, I also am on a couple of lists connected with hobbies and
work. The vocabulary that I use for the different subjects differs
noticeably,
but the style of writing is recognizeably similar. However, there are even
some differences in style. My writing style changes by subject matter and
audience even though certain aspects remain constant (e.g. I tend to use
long, run on sentences. And I have gotten to the habit of starting sentences
with an And to show continuation of thought.)
One of my professors commented that had it not been for the naming of Cyrus,
there is no stylistic reason to assume two authors. There is a shift in
emphasis leading to a shift in vocabulary used, but whoever the redactor was
who combined the two works under one name made a very good call
because the authors styles are almost identical. That professor not only
talked about a second Isaiah, but also a third.
Yes, I have noticed a slight change in style, but I have always attributed it
to a change in emphasis, and the stylistic change is so minor that it can be
explained by that change in emphasis.
As for your theological claims, beyond mentioning that I do not find them
logically nor philosophically coherant, I do not wish to argue them on list.
There is no reason to assume that the God who created the space-time
continuum with all its laws in the first place, would not suspend them from
time to time if it fits his purposes in his communication with his
creationman. And that includes naming names in prophecy. This is not a
question of
probabilities, not even possibilities, but what did God say he did?
Karl W. Randolph.
----- Original Message -----
From: "George F Somsel" <gfsomsel AT juno.com>
>
>
> Karl,
>
> As the moral law is "written" in the heart of man so also the natural law
> is revealed in the operations of the universe which reveal God's
> faithfulness. It does not reveal a capriciousness which manifests itself
> in intervening whenever the pool ball needs to be nudged toward the
> proper pocket. It does not reveal a tendency to satisfy idle curiosity
> regarding names and dates, etc. Ask yourself just what purpose it would
> serve to reveal the name of Josiah long before his appearance. It is far
> more probable that the prophecy as originally uttered mentioned no
> specific name but that the name was supplied after the fact. Do you
> object because this seems to you to take some of the marvellousness from
> it? Considering the balance of power at the time, wouldn't it be
> sufficiently amazing without the name? I know, you balk at sacrificing
> the idea that the very words are divinely inspired and infallible. Just
> where do you get this notion? Not from the scriptures (besides, are we
> to suppose that a thing is the case simply because it is asserted to be
> so?) I'm sure you are of the opinion that I don't hold the scriptures to
> be "the word of the Lord." This is not the case. I simply have a
> different view of what this word happens to be and how it came to be.
> You claim to have read through the TANAK in (unpointed) Hebrew a number
> of times and to have developed a sense of the changes which the language
> has undergone over time (according to the traditional understanding) and
> yet you can't distinguish the style of 1st Isaiah and 2nd Isaiah? I find
> that amazing.
>
> george
> gfsomsel
> ___________
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 7
, (continued)
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 7,
George F Somsel, 04/05/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 7, Peter Kirk, 04/05/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 7, George F Somsel, 04/05/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 7,
George F Somsel, 04/05/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 7, Dave Washburn, 04/05/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 7, George F Somsel, 04/05/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 7, Karl Randolph, 04/06/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 7, George F Somsel, 04/07/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 7, Karl Randolph, 04/07/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 7, George F Somsel, 04/08/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 7, Karl Randolph, 04/08/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 7,
George F Somsel, 04/09/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 7, Peter Kirk, 04/10/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 7, Karl Randolph, 04/09/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 7, Karl Randolph, 04/11/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 7, George F Somsel, 04/11/2005
- Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 7, Karl Randolph, 04/12/2005
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Re: [b-hebrew] Isaiah 7,
George F Somsel, 04/05/2005
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