Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>]

Peter:

I didn’t mention a couple times (M H)RC in Genesis refers to the Canaanites 
living in Canaan during the days of the Patriarchs. And you have to agree 
that the unspecified reference to the land in Exodus 5:5 refers to Egypt.

As for 1 Chronicles 7:21, the context of Ephraim’s life indicates that he 
lived only in Egypt, making the unspecified reference to “land” connected 
with Ephraim to be Egypt. But the reference is so brief and unspecified that 
different people can read it different ways without being able to prove any 
one reading is correct. Because of its unspecificity, I try to avoid using 
such verses as proof texts.

I think the reference, HNWLDYM B)RC indicates that these “men of Gath” were 
not born in Gath, rather born somewhere else. But right now I can’t prove it.

Karl W. Randolph.

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Kirk <peterkirk AT qaya.org>

> On 07/09/2004 00:05, Karl Randolph wrote:
> 
> >Uh, Peter:
> >
> >(M H)RC is used for the people of Egypt, Genesis 42:6 and Exodus 5:5 the 
> >pharaoh refers to Israel living in Egypt as (M H)RC. I wouldn’t be 
> >surprised if I can find more examples.
> >  
> >
> 
> I grant you Genesis 42:6, so BDB has let me down here by implying that 
> the phrase was used only of Israelites. But not Exodus 5:5 where as you 
> say the reference is, rather paradoxically, to Israelites.
> 
> >As for context, I didn’t say immediate context, though when Israel was 
> >told to ascend and take possession of the land, the land they were to 
> >possess was already defined elsewhere so the “take possession” acts as an 
> >identifier.
> >
> >  
> >
> Well, I suppose so. But isn't that true of 1 Chronicles 7:21 as well? 
> The most recently mentioned land in the context is clearly Israel, as 
> divided in chapter 6 as well as in 7:24,28-29. There is no mention of or 
> allusion to Egypt anywhere near.
> 
> -- 
> Peter Kirk
> peter AT qaya.org (personal)
> peterkirk AT qaya.org (work)
> http://www.qaya.org/
> 
> 

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