Biblical Hebrew Forum

["Karl Randolph" <kwrandolph AT email.com>]

Yigal:

Thanx for the .pdf files. They were an interesting read.

As for the date of Chronicles, I would put it a century earlier.

One of the questions I ask concerning the genealogies is the problem of 
textual transmission. Where they differ, where, when and how did the 
differences creep in (that’s assuming a common, written source)? It’s obvious 
that the genealogies preserved in Tanakh mention only the most important 
people, the founders of clans and tribal leaders, but was that also true of 
the genealogies used to compile those in Tanakh? Is it not true that at least 
some of those were kept in the temple until their destruction under Titus? I 
had heard from a historian that that was the case, but was that only a second 
Temple practice? Is it possible the prior to the second Temple, the written 
genealogies were kept with each tribe, and some tribes lost their genealogies 
when they were conquered? Are there any historical references, or are we just 
guessing? The breadth and depth of the genealogies suggests more than just 
oral transmission, as seen in modern examples studied by anthropologists, but 
what
  are the historical references concerning the genealogies? They are simply 
listed in Tanakh.

Karl W. Randolph.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Yigal Levin" <leviny1 AT mail.biu.ac.il>

> Karl, try this one:
> 
> Gen. 46:13: Beney Yissakar, Tola( Upuvah Yob Ve$imron. Repeated with slight
> variations in Num. 26:23-24 and 1 Chr. 7:1, both of which have "Ye$ub"
> instead of "Yob". 1 Chr. 7:1 also has "Pu)ah" instead of "Puvah".
> 
> So Issachar son of Jacob had four sons.
> 
> But in Judges 10:1, there's a "minor judge" by the name of Tola( ben Pu)ah
> ben Dodo, a man of Issachar, "vehu) Yo$ev be$amir behar Ephraim". So yes,
> its possible that this judge was named after the son of his tribal
> patriarch, and his father was named after another son of the tribal
> patriarch, and that he just happened to live in a place that had a name
> similar to another son of the tribal patriarch, and that the word
> "sits/dwells" happens to have the same consonants as the third son of his
> tribal patriarch, but that's to many coinsidences for me. As far as I'm
> concerned, there are two logical possibilities - either the list of
> Issachar's "sons" was invented by P (or by whatever tradition P was
> following) by taking elements from all we know about anyone from this tribe,
> or the Deuteronomistic author/editor/redactor of Judges "invented" the
> details about the judge by using the names in the genealogies.
> 
> Yigal
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