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["Jonathan D. Safren" <yon_saf AT bezeqint.net>]

I think I misunderstood Ian's question again, and I leave the field to
others!
Jonathan D. Safren

Chairman
Dept. of Biblical Studies
Beit Berl College
44905 Israel
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonathan D. Safren" <yon_saf AT bezeqint.net>
To: "Biblical Hebrew" <b-hebrew AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 7:22 PM
Subject: Re: Child theme in Isaiah 6-12


> Ian Hutchesson wrote:
>
> > >> >The Shear-Jashub prophecies of 10:20-23 must refer to a relatively
> > distant
> > >> >future, a time when Israel will return after being struck down or
> exiled
> > >> >(see also 11:10-12).
> > >>
> > >> Aren't all these prophecies vaticinio ex eventu, as the status quo
> > suggests,
> > >> given 1 Enoch and Daniel?
>
>
> Sorry, I misunderstood your question, Ian. Yes, I quite agree with you.
And
> so Isaiah couldn't have been talking about a future seven hundred years
> later. He, like Jeremiah or Ezekiel, was merely extrapolating from
existing
> conditions .
> ]Please explain how Enoch and Daniel pertain to this.
> Jonathan D. Safren
> Chairman
> Dept. of Biblical Studies
> Beit Berl College
> 44905 IsraelSubject: Re: Child theme in Isaiah 6-12
> > >
> > >That's what the messianic belief is all about, Ian, as I claimed in a
> > >previous posting: the failure of biblical prophecy and the need felt to
> > >re-interpret it in view of its failure.
> >
> > Jonathan,
> >
> > I was talking about texts and the fact that those "prophetic" books we
> knew
> > for sure about were vaticinio ex eventu, and extrapolating from there. I
> > hadn't got on to beliefs. If we are dealing with vaticinio ex eventu,
> there
> > can be no "failure" in the prophecy. I can't see the connection between
> your
> > comments and the post you are responding to.
> >
> >
> > Ian
> >
> >
> >
> >
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