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["Sergey A. Lipnevich" <sergey AT optimaltec.com>]

Next time I decide to rewrite a spell, say Firefox, I will only ask
direct stakeholders if that's a good idea. When I thus remove or break a
feature that was not used by those direct stakeholders, you would
immediately understand my concern here. Please don't try to remove
people from discussion by deciding for them if something is in their
interest or not. I looked at release notes page again, and I didn't see
any mention of who direct stakeholders are. The word "stakeholder" is
not found on any of our Wiki pages:
http://wiki.sourcemage.org/index.php?action=find&find=stakeholder
This is not a personal attack, mind you, it's not about you, it's about
the way decisions are discussed. You could have called for a discussion
publicly and nobody would show up anyway who were not interested, but I
believe that was not done.

Sergey.

On Thu, 2005-05-26 at 14:48 -0700, Seth Alan Woolley wrote:
> Direct stakeholder is 1) the person wanting to rewrite it, 2) the person 
> who 
> wrote it, and 3) QA Team members.
> 
> You're an indirect stakeholder under that scheme.  I posted it in the 
> release notes so that people could join into that discussion if they 
> wanted to -- it's not like anybody's made a decision behind your back or 
> anything :).
> 
> Seth
> 
> On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 05:19:54PM -0400, Sergey A. Lipnevich wrote:
> > Should I consider this as an acknowledgement of me or any other 
> > developer (who's
> > not included into this discussion) as not a "direct stakeholder?"
> > 
> > Quoting Seth Alan Woolley <seth AT positivism.org>:
> > 
> > >On Thu, May 26, 2005 at 03:46:13PM -0400, Sergey A. Lipnevich wrote:
> > >>Quoting Arwed von Merkatz <v.merkatz AT gmx.net>:
> > >>
> > >>>[0] http://wiki.sourcemage.org/index.php?page=Stable0.0Notes
> > >>
> > >>From this page:
> > >>> prometheus will either be resurrected or rewritten -- debate ensues
> > >>
> > >>Where is the debate taking place, forums, irc? It's certainly not on the
> > >>list.
> > >
> > >On IRC between the various direct stakeholders.