permaculture

[sandra joel campe <zukunftswerkstatt@riseup.net>]

hi lawrence,

never heard of joanna campe, thanks for the hint! :-)

thanks for the number, too. i'm wondering whether there would be a
simple way of sharing who is based where without creating a lot of
traffic? maybe through a piratepad like this one:
http://piratepad.be/p/international_permaculture
(this can be edited by everyone who's got the link but does not require
login or anything...)


also thanks for asking whether i want to moderate the list with you.
actually, here in germany we've just had similarly "escalating"
discussions on our mailinglist (which has 460 members) - and i have just
decided against becoming a moderator. on the one hand, because i think
that anybodys time is too valuable to be used for list-moderation, and
on the other hand because of this:
in our team of the Permakultur Institut e.V., there was a strong opinion
to let the list subscribers self-organize, like any (good and
well-working) system would. whatever that means on a list! :-)

what we did though is that we formulated an "entrance text" for new
subscribers (unlike before, where anyone could just join without having
much information).
this text basically says what the list is for, mentions that the list is
not being moderated and why, and states these 2 simple rules:
- communicate as if you are sitting in front of the other person.
- make irony explicit.

there are also a few hints where to redirect longer discussions to (e.g.
the permies.com -forums!), because a) it relieves list subscribers from
massive traffic and b) the discussion is being saved for future
reference / people that join the list later! like that, people can just
write "this discussion is now being continued under this link:..." and
everyone can continue following it.

the last but not least thing is the explanation why and how to mark side
aspects as "off topic".

we also mention that and how people can change their subscription to
"daily digest", "weekly digest", etc.


i am quite excited to see where this change will lead us in the german
network! :-)


maybe others have good practices to share from other lists?


many greetings from hot northern germany,
sandra



Am 20.07.2016 um 18:07 schrieb Lawrence London:
> On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 11:41 AM, sandra joel campe <
> zukunftswerkstatt@riseup.net> wrote:
> 
>> how many people are subscribed to this list, would you mind sharing
>> that? and do you know where they are from (roughly, e.g. percentages
>> from continents)? it seems like there are mostly people from the USA on
>> the list, but maybe i am mistaken...
>>
> 
> Are you any kin to Joanna Campe of Remineralize the Earth?
> 
> There are (now) 557 members. I will leave it at that. I don't want to unsub
> anyone by mistake who wants to be here.
> Other than those I know from their posts I have no idea were anyone is
> from. As far as I can tell there is a fairly low percentage from outside
> the US.
> I determine this from the domains indicated in their email id's.
> 
> Maybe you would like to join me in co-owning/mangaging/moderating this
> list, Sandra.
> 
> It would be nice to know where people hail from and about their interest
> and involvement in permaculture so don;t be bashful and post ahead.
> Onward with the permaculture movement. I feel that the crowd in this list
> is and will continue to be the most important faction in developing the
> permaculture movement positively and creatively.
> 

-- 
sandra joel campe
sieben linden ecovillage
d-38489 beetzendorf
germany
skype: xcampe.sinax