permaculture

[Toby Hemenway <toby@patternliteracy.com>]

On Nov 17, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Robyn Francis wrote:

> Toby,
> Didn't you do a Ted Talk on this topic? -

I wish. No Ted talk, but the talk you're referring to is a bunch of places on 
the web, including
http://www.patternliteracy.com/videos/how-permaculture-can-save-humanity-and-the-planet-but-not-civilization
That hyphenated mouthful is the title.

Toby
http://patternliteracy.com

> I remember watching a video online
> of your talk some years ago and tried to find it recently with no luck. Can
> you post us the link please. I'd like to show it to my students.
> Thanks Robyn
> 
> 
> On 18/11/11 5:06 AM, "Toby Hemenway" <toby@patternliteracy.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Nov 17, 2011, at 9:37 AM, Dieter Brand wrote:
>> 
>>> The argument about the superior health of the hunter gatherers is probably
>>> exaggerated or based on a small statistical base of a few archeological
>>> finds.
>> 
>> See Jared Diamond's article, "The Worst Mistake in the History of the Human
>> Race."
>> http://www.ditext.com/diamond/mistake.html
>> 
>> or mine, "Is Sustainable Agriculture an Oxymoron?"
>> http://www.patternliteracy.com/203-is-sustainable-agriculture-an-oxymoron
>> 
>> Not exaggerated. Essentially all the data available show that the shift to
>> agriculture resulted in a huge spike in epidemic disease, shorter lifespan,
>> shrinkage in stature (suggesting poorer nutrition), tooth and bone 
>> problems,
>> arthritis, etc. There aren't a lot of sites, it's true, probably no more 
>> than
>> 40 or so that cover the transition, but they all show the same thing
>> consistently. We paid a huge price nutritionally for the shift to 
>> agriculture
>> (not to mention the loss of freedom, which is far more significant to me).
>> 
>> Okay, I really am procrastinating on writing a tough section of the 
>> patterns
>> book. Back to it!
>> 
>> Toby
>> http://patternliteracy.com
>> 
>> 
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