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- From: Katey <newtribe@hughes.net>
- To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] politics and permies
- Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 16:41:44 -0600
Stella wrote:
given what ONE Ghandi was able to do, or one Martin Luther King, in terms of social change .. I think we should seriously ask ourselves why, with so many permaculturists loose ... we haven´t re-designed society yet.What did one Gandhi or one MLK Jr do? Got themselves killed for one. Revolutions don't change things, not really. They have failed humans miserably through the ages as the elite rule of civilization has marched steadfastly onward, side stepping here and there, but always relentlessly onward.
it´s only a revolutionary system of design if some revolution actually happens.
After the British pulled out Gandhi saw the destruction of the nation he was trying to free. And it did not happen through non-violence and peaceable means.
MLK Jr, Medgar Evers, and so many others lost their lives for the "gains" we made in civil rights (ask the Jena 6 how far we've come). Jesse and Al, standing right at King's side, learned quickly not to rock the boat too hard. Definitely not hard enough to evoke change, lest you be killed.
We will change the paradigm, not through revolution, but through evolution. It will take switching the mindset of enough humans to create the kind of change we need to see. And i agree that permaculture is a great tool for that. It might be way too slow for most of the species on the planet currently (including our own), but that shouldn't stop us from doing what we know in our hearts, guts and minds is a great healing. And do it as a political statement!
~katey
Katey Culver
ecoville architechs
www.earthandstraw.com
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Re: [permaculture] politics and permies
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- Re: [permaculture] politics and permies, Krystle Chung, 12/02/2007
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- Re: [permaculture] politics and permies, Stella, 12/03/2007
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Re: [permaculture] politics and permies,
Bob Waldrop, 12/02/2007
- Re: [permaculture] politics and permies, Tommy Tolson, 12/03/2007
- Re: [permaculture] politics and permies, jedd, 12/04/2007
- Re: [permaculture] politics and permies, Healing Hawk, 12/03/2007
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Re: [permaculture] politics and permies,
Stella, 12/03/2007
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Re: [permaculture] politics and permies,
Katey, 12/03/2007
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Re: [permaculture] politics and permies,
Scott Pittman, 12/04/2007
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Re: [permaculture] politics and permies,
Katey, 12/05/2007
- Re: [permaculture] politics and permies, Scott Pittman, 12/05/2007
- Re: [permaculture] politics and permies, Scott Pittman, 12/05/2007
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Re: [permaculture] politics and permies,
Katey, 12/05/2007
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Re: [permaculture] politics and permies,
Scott Pittman, 12/04/2007
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Re: [permaculture] politics and permies,
Scott Pittman, 12/03/2007
- Re: [permaculture] politics and permies, Stella, 12/04/2007
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Re: [permaculture] politics and permies,
Katey, 12/03/2007
- Re: [permaculture] politics and permies, Keith Johnson, 12/15/2007
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