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- From: Keith Johnson <keithdj@mindspring.com>
- To: permaculture <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] politics and permies
- Date: Sat, 15 Dec 2007 14:26:04 -0500
Scott,
The original version is below with the italicized, bold sentences representing the parts removed. I considered removing the last paragraph, too. What do you think? My intent is to validate the design course and permaculture in general.
Keith
To my mind the very act of enrolling for a permaculture design
course is one
of the most political acts most people ever engage in. Since I have
certified over 3,000 people I feel that I have helped create a small
village
of active, engaged and aware folks who now have the tools to change the
reality around them - and many of them are very busy doing just that.
The very act of reading "Permaculture - A Design Manual" is extremely
radical and political as the information and realizations sink in of the
ultimate outcome of following the pc path. The beauty of permaculture has
always meant, to me, that I can travel all over the world in some of the
most brutal dictatorships espousing a revolutionary system of design and I
am considered harmless by the powers that be. That is an incredible
advantage folks, in a world that has become increasingly polarized by the
paranoia of rampant capitalism and lack of ethical guidance.
/*To state that pc practitioners in the first world are any less
political*/
/*than any other place is an exercise in one up man ship that may describe
the*/
/*feeling but not the reality. It would be something else to say that*/
/*permaculture in the third (developing - what ever) world is more
relevant*/
/*for survival than in the first then I would be the first to agree, if we
are*/
/*talking in the short term, but if we are talking in the not to distant*/
/*future I think it will be equally needed for survival in the whole
world*/
/*with the third world having a slight edge, just because they are a
couple of*/
/*generations closer to the land.*/
The effect of Permaculture worldwide is certainly more profoundly political
than Students for a Democratic Society of which I was a proud member for
several years. The primary difference being SDS was fighting against
something while permaculture is fighting for something. Within the ethical
guideposts of permaculture are contained all the political guidance one
could need. /* While changing laws and ordinances is good and necessary
work*/
/*it is extremely time consuming and deadening of spirit and I only resort
to*/
/*it when I see a real chance of succeeding otherwise I begin to feel a
little*/
/*bit like Don Quixote.*/
Most of what we understand to be politics, Democrat, Republican, Labor,
Communist, etc. are games that have been developed to keep us thinking that
we can make a difference by staying in the cultural/economic system and
that
we are involved in "democracy". It is an incredible demonic and clever way
of controlling an increasingly disenfranchised populace. For the most part
I
don't play except for the occasional trip to the polls in an attempt to
ease
the painful descent into the inevitable change that must come.
*//*
--
Keith Johnson
"Be fruitful and mulch apply."
Permaculture Activist Magazine
PO Box 5516, Bloomington, IN 47407
(812) 335-0383
http://www.permacultureactivist.net
http://www.PermacultureTradingPost.com
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http://www.jointhesolution.com/KeithJ-SunPower
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Blog: http://kjpermaculture.blogspot.com/
also Patterns for Abundance Design & Consulting
http://www.permacultureactivist.net/design/Designconsult.html
also Association for Regenerative Culture
http://www.ARCulture.org
also APPLE-Bloomington (Alliance for a Post-Petroleum Local Economy) It's a
small world after oil.
http://www.relocalize.net/groups/applebloomington
also Bloomington Permaculture Guild
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Re: [permaculture] politics and permies
, (continued)
-
Re: [permaculture] politics and permies,
Scott Pittman, 12/03/2007
- Re: [permaculture] politics and permies, Healing Hawk, 12/03/2007
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Re: [permaculture] politics and permies,
Stella, 12/03/2007
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Re: [permaculture] politics and permies,
Katey, 12/03/2007
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Re: [permaculture] politics and permies,
Scott Pittman, 12/04/2007
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Re: [permaculture] politics and permies,
Katey, 12/05/2007
- Re: [permaculture] politics and permies, Scott Pittman, 12/05/2007
- Re: [permaculture] politics and permies, Scott Pittman, 12/05/2007
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Re: [permaculture] politics and permies,
Katey, 12/05/2007
-
Re: [permaculture] politics and permies,
Scott Pittman, 12/04/2007
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Re: [permaculture] politics and permies,
Scott Pittman, 12/03/2007
- Re: [permaculture] politics and permies, Stella, 12/04/2007
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Re: [permaculture] politics and permies,
Katey, 12/03/2007
- Re: [permaculture] politics and permies, Keith Johnson, 12/15/2007
- Re: [permaculture] Peak Water/Where to ride out the coming collapse and which gun to buy, Primal Parent, 12/03/2007
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Re: [permaculture] politics and permies,
Scott Pittman, 12/03/2007
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