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Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point
- From: "E. E. Mitchamore Jr" <emitch@att.net>
- To: "permaculture" <permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point
- Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 14:06:38 -0500
Seems to me that the evolution of agriculture would have been a pretty
natural thing for early Man. They would have tried, just as we do, to "help
Nature along" in order to make food easier to find. Everything else that has
happened since has been a pretty natural progression, given our penchant for
acting in our own perceived best interest. Except some folks are better at
it than others.
E. E. "Mitch" Mitchamore
www.hillcountrynatives.biz
----- Original Message -----
From: Sean Maley
To: permaculture
Sent: Friday, May 19, 2006 1:33 PM
Subject: Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point
--- Toby Hemenway <toby@patternliteracy.com> wrote:
> Ah, I see Sean has addressed this nicely. Again, see Jared Diamond's "The
> Worst Mistake in the History of the Human Race" at
> http://www.mnforsustain.org/food_ag_worst_mistake_diamond_j.htm
Thank you for the kudos. I do want to point out a distinction between
Jared Diamond and Daniel
Quinn, though. Jared Diamond posits that larger populations forced people
into farming. Daniel
Quinn posits that a farming experiment, for whatever reason it was
attempted, resulted in a
temporary food surplus, which in turn caused the constant acceleration of
population of about 2%
per year.
Some have speculated that beer was invented, which became a reason to
create a surplus; the "big
man" theory of chiefs trying to out do each other with feasts. Where most
experiments with
"civilization" failed, the one in North Africa and the "Fertile Crescent"
were able to spread to
adjacent lands, as soil fertility declined. The endless race, creating
more food for the poor,
began. I'm interested to find a study on how long it took for slavery to
emerge after agriculture
began. Agriculture in this context means "the culture of civilization".
-Sean.
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Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point
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- Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point, Sean Maley, 05/18/2006
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Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point,
Bart Anderson, 05/18/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point, Sean Maley, 05/18/2006
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Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point,
Toby Hemenway, 05/19/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point, gil carandang, 05/19/2006
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Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point,
Lawrence F. London, Jr., 05/19/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point, treaclemine, 05/19/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point, Sean Maley, 05/19/2006
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Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point,
Toby Hemenway, 05/19/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point, Sean Maley, 05/19/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point, E. E. Mitchamore Jr, 05/19/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point, Sean Maley, 05/19/2006
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Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point,
E. E. Mitchamore Jr, 05/19/2006
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Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point,
Forest Garden, 05/19/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point, Jerome Rigot, 05/19/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point, Forest Garden, 05/19/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point, E. E. Mitchamore Jr, 05/20/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 05/20/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point, sustain_ability, 05/20/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point, Bart Anderson, 05/23/2006
- Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point, Forest Garden, 05/20/2006
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Re: [permaculture] Global Food Supply Near the Breaking Point,
Forest Garden, 05/19/2006
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