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Re: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was question about PCDcourseprices
- From: "GlobalCirclenet" <webmaster@globalcircle.net>
- To: permaculture@lists.ibiblio.org
- Subject: Re: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was question about PCDcourseprices
- Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2004 13:37:57 -0600
In a true commons, everybody sharing in it has the right to police it and
nobody can get by with abusing it, monopolizing it, or selling it off.
Garret Hardin made a basic mistake when he neglected that aspect of
historical commons such as the English commons. His mistake has been
repeated ever since.
For example, the air is not a true commons by that definition; it can't be.
An example of a true commons would be some of the backstreets and
driveways I see in old Albuquerque. More than one house shares a driveway
or road. All protect it.
paul@largocreekfarms.com
http://medicinehill.net
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On 9/14/2004 at 3:42 PM Lawrence F. London, Jr. wrote:
>Toby Hemenway wrote:
> > Ownership entails
>> responsibility; common property is abused.
>
>..... in an irresponsible society. In 3rd world places where people have
>for centuries lived on "common land" with little or no
>clearly-defined ownership rights, this is a system that has worked well
>and has satisfied their need to know that they have "rights" to the
>land they live and work on, something not in question and that they have
>to worry about. This applies to countries such as
>Phillipines, Guatemala, Mexico and many more. Of course, in the recent
>past, unscrupulous types have on occasion sought to abrogate those
>rights. Various locations, possibly in Mexico, including Chiapas and
>Guerrero and definitely in Guatemala and Phillipines (see the "Golf
>Wars" documentary) are examples of common land agreements being violated
>by outsiders for their own profit.
>
>Read Garret Hardin's "The Tragedy
>> of the Commons" for countless more examples.
>
>LL
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Re: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was question aboutPCDcourseprices
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- Re: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was question aboutPCDcourseprices, Graham Burnett, 09/13/2004
- Re: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was question aboutPCDcourseprices, Graham Burnett, 09/13/2004
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Re: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was question about PCDcourseprices,
Chad Knepp, 09/13/2004
- Re: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was question about PCDcourseprices, neotern-1, 09/14/2004
- Re: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was question about PCDcourseprices, Jocelyn Paquette & Bob Ewing, 09/14/2004
- Re: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was question about PCDcourseprices, neotern-1, 09/14/2004
- Re: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was question about PCDcourseprices, Jocelyn Paquette & Bob Ewing, 09/14/2004
- Re: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was question about PCDcourseprices, neotern-1, 09/14/2004
- Re: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was question about PCDcourseprices, Toby Hemenway, 09/14/2004
- Re: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was question about PCDcourseprices, Lawrence F. London, Jr., 09/14/2004
- Re: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was question about PCDcourseprices, GlobalCirclenet, 09/14/2004
- Re: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was question about PCDcourseprices, neotern-1, 09/15/2004
- Re: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was question about PCDcourseprices, GlobalCirclenet, 09/15/2004
- Re: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was question aboutPCDcourseprices, Paul Park, 09/15/2004
- Re: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was question aboutPCDcourseprices, GlobalCirclenet, 09/16/2004
- Re: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was questionaboutPCDcourseprices, Paul Park, 09/16/2004
- Re: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was question about PCDcourseprices, bmn, 09/18/2004
- RE: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was question aboutPCDcourseprices, ontignano, 09/15/2004
- Re: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was question aboutPCDcourseprices, Toby Hemenway, 09/15/2004
- Re: [permaculture] It's free on the web/ was questionaboutPCDcourseprices, Rita van der Vorst, 09/16/2004
- [permaculture] Toby's New Garden, Allan Balliett, 09/19/2004
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