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- From: "Kirby Fry" <peace@totalaccess.net>
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- Subject: Re: [permaculture] Exotic Plant Erradication
- Date: Wed, 28 Aug 2002 07:43:44 -0500
Jamie,
>> While many of us, myself included, wander our 'acre' feeling a diffuse,
warm glow at the successful integration of PC, nature-centered ideas, the
large farms that produce nearly all the food consumed in the West and have
so damaged their environments, remain largely untouched (and possibly
untouchable) by PC in its current guise. <<
Right, well before we toss aside our ethics (which still hold in my opinion,
no matter the scale) consider, that perhaps industrial agriculture as we
know it is untouchable because it is anathema to permaculture. Industrial
ag is more the result of politics, designing around machines and influence
peddling on the part of corporations.
Perhaps the only change we should be worried about is taking care of
ourselves.
>> How do we reach out and begin to make a change on these farms when
farmers are so squeezed for time and money as it is. <<
Personally, I think it's too late, unless one wants to go into politics.
The aggies are the ones relentlessly destroying the land and will no doubt
continue to do so until some sort of crisis reaches a head.
Does anyone out there actually devote their time to influencing commercial /
industrial farmers?
The one area that could use our attention includes all of the family farms
going out of business and turning to CSA's for a new source of income.
>> Is PC a precious, suburban, faintly elitist movement that has much to say
but little practical to give these larger farms? <<
Quite the contrary, the Pc movement is best suited for the rural, southern
hemisphere where people are the poorest. It's not elitist at all. As a
matter of fact, last time I spoke with Bill Mollison, North Vietnam was
working to make permaculture its national form of agriculture.
Kirby Fry
For the real scoop on environmental and social justice issues check out the
archives of Democracy Now!
http://www.webactive.com/webactive/pacifica/demnow/archive.html
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Re: [permaculture] Exotic Plant Eradication
, (continued)
- Re: [permaculture] Exotic Plant Eradication, Mark, 08/27/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Exotic Plant Eradication, Kirby Fry, 08/28/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Exotic Plant Eradication, Mark, 08/28/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Exotic Plant Eradication, Kirby Fry, 08/30/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Exotic Plant Eradication, Mark, 08/30/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Exotic Plant Erradication, Claude Genest, 08/27/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Exotic Plant Erradication, Kirby Fry, 08/28/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Exotic Plant Erradication, Steve Diver, 08/27/2002
- RE: [permaculture] Exotic Plant Erradication, jamie nicol, 08/28/2002
- [permaculture] Farm & Garden Handtool Sourcelist (Attn.: Rick Valley; found Chillington and Bellota eye hoes, see reference for Crocodile, USA), lfl, 08/28/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Exotic Plant Erradication, Kirby Fry, 08/28/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Exotic Plant Eradication, Mark, 08/28/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Exotic Plant Eradication, jeff, 08/28/2002
- RE: [permaculture] Exotic Plant Erradication, jamie nicol, 08/28/2002
- [permaculture] Theory of Everyhting, Kirby Fry, 08/28/2002
- [permaculture] Pc and large scale farms, jamie nicol, 08/29/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Pc and large scale farms, Kirby Fry, 08/30/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Pc and large scale farms, Kirby Fry, 08/30/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Pc and large scale farms, lfl, 08/30/2002
- [permaculture] Turning Deserts into Woodlands, Kirby Fry, 08/31/2002
- Re: [permaculture] Turning Deserts into Woodlands, keller, 08/31/2002
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