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  • From: Rich Morris <mailinglists@pfaf.org>
  • To: pcdb <pcdb@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [pcdb] PCDB/Wiki/Guild Database
  • Date: Sun, 06 May 2007 22:49:54 +0100

Paul Cereghino wrote:
Lawrence F. London, Jr. wrote:

Is this project still on and is anyone still interested in working on it?

Sounds like there is a grant in place, it sounds like Rich Morris is the project manager and directly responsible for a deliverable? I don't know anything about the scope/schedule/budget of that grant, or how Rich wants to tap our enthusiasm, or how this shift towards product development relates to any previous discussion.

Good post, Paul. You have hit the nail on the head.

If I were playing project manager I would think up a stepwise work plan:

1. DEFINE PRIMARY OBJECTIVES - who is the user and what does it do for them, we need a finite set

Yes this is the question. What is this project about?

2. DEFINE KEY CONCEPTS within these objective statements .. for example, the word "guild" is still a pretty fuzzy pile of concepts - so we and others know what the hell we're talking about... this is the beginnings of a data dictionary for structured data...

Is this just for plants and guild or more?


3. Play through scenarios of how users will interact with the application to CATALOG THE FUNCTIONS we want to achieve through the application even if it is a Wiki -- what kind of conventions guide wiki development... do PFAF fields allow for the queries we are talking about?
4. IDENTIFY SOFTWARE ALTERNATIVES -- how can we build our set of applications with different existing or created software... feasible?!
5. EVALUATE AND SELECT ALTERNATIVE
6. DEVELOP PROTOTYPE - incl test data acquisition, testing,

If we are running a project via an advisory group, I will help where I can as long as we can work off of a stepwise workplan, and consciously and communicatively modify and document that work plan over time. To the extent that we start wandering in the weeds without communication I for one, will loose interest.

Rich... I'd say it looks like the balls in your court... I'm at your service and want to hear the plan.

Paul Cereghino

Really we are at the stage of just 1 and 2. The others come later.

So ideas on a postcard.

Actually I would like to do this on-wiki if at all possible, there is a page in the wiki
http://www.permaculture.info/index.php/PIW:Community_Portal

which is for general discussion and I've copied most of Pauls post there.

The motivations for doing it on wiki are two fold:

1) To get people use to using a wiki, in the technical how to edit fashion.
2) To get people use to the culture of a wiki and working on colaborative documents, rather than the culture of a mailing list.

So it would be great if people could dip their toes in the water, even if it is just to add a Hello message. It is very easy 1) click edit, 2) type, 3) click save.

Even better if people want to add their thoughts on 1 and 2 on the above mentioned wiki page.

See you there

Rich


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