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- From: "BC911" <usark9@warpdriveonline.com>
- To: "Mounted search and rescue" <msar-riders@lists.ibiblio.org>
- Subject: Fw: [MSAR] (MSAR) Stallions
- Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:05:49 -0700
Hi group
I have only read a few of the posts but I will put
in my two cents here.
Because I work SAR dogs, both a bitch and a
dog, plus I ride, maybe I can point out a few differences in dogs and
horses.
First, Mares come in season with regular
frequency. Bitches come into season once about every six months or
so.
Bitches are usually fixed unless they are breeding
stock. Mares are almost never fixed unless they have a medical issue that needs
to be addressed.
With horses, they are usually cut unless they are
breeding stock due to temperament and training issues. Dogs are not always cut,
(even though they should be) even if they are not breeding stock.
What we have here are two very different critters
and we treat them very differently as well. If you leave your dog in tact,
you will probably have your hands full with dog aggression issues and other
training issues, but with a dog, you are talking about an animal that most
people can control even when the dog is behaving badly. They are usually not
life threatening due to their size and strength.
With a horse, he is near 800 to 1,000 pounds and if
he takes his mind to do something, well,,,he usually can.
Mares in season will set off a horse just like a
bitch in season will set off a dog. Difference is most SAR bitches are fixed and
there is not much of an issue in the SAR dog world. If a bitch is in tact and
comes into season, she will not be permitted in the search area, but remember
that she is only coming into heat once every 6 to 9 months, it's just not
as big an issue.
Also, stray bitches in season can and sometimes are
in the search area. A dog might not work well, but he isn't going to hurt anyone
either.
That brings us to another point. If you are working
a stallion in an area where there are mares in season, not with a MSAR mare, you
might have your hands full. You can't control farmers mares or mares grazing in
a search area.
I think that you are asking for trouble if you are
using a stallion as a SAR horse. If you are wanting to work MSAR, get a horse
that is for MSAR and keep your stallion at home for your breeding
program and other riding activities.
Mares are different than bitches and dogs and
different than stallions. We should keep mind when bringing them into a public
scenario.
I have different dogs for different types of
searches. Why not do this with horses.
My personal opinion is that you need to leave the
stallion at home. Too much risk.
Too many people are riding mares, and
their frequency of coming into season is so often. If you were to take
mares out of MSAR when they are in season, you might just cut your resources in
half.
How many people really want to use a stallion for
MSAR anyway and why?
With dogs we get the right tool (dog) for the job,
why not do the same thing with horses?
BTW, I do not condone keeping any dog or bitch in
tact unless they are breeding stock for many reasons.
My two cents, now back to lurking ~ ~ ~ ~
~
B. Diane Whetsel EMT I Search Dogs Southwest FEMA Type II Canine Readiness Evaluator
NMTF I, CSS 911BC, Search and Recovery NASAR SAR Tech II
K-9's Rip, wilderness, HRD and
forensics
K-9 Sage, FEMA Type I advanced disaster,
wilderness and HRD
Horses, AQHA, Woody, and Miniature Horse
(stallion), Sun Dance
If there are no dogs in heaven, then when I die I want to go where they
went.
~~Will Rogers |
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[MSAR] (MSAR) Stallions,
wwfarm, 03/17/2004
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Re: [MSAR] (MSAR) Stallions,
Julie Hensley, 03/17/2004
- Re: [MSAR] (MSAR) Stallions, Una Smith, 03/17/2004
- Re: [MSAR] (MSAR) Stallions, BC911, 03/17/2004
- RE: [MSAR] (MSAR) Stallions, Ian Vowles, 03/17/2004
- Re: [MSAR] (MSAR) Stallions, Paul Fleming, 03/17/2004
- <Possible follow-up(s)>
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Re: [MSAR] (MSAR) Stallions,
Slybarbara, 03/17/2004
- Re: [MSAR] (MSAR) Stallions, BC911, 03/17/2004
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Fw: [MSAR] (MSAR) Stallions,
BC911, 03/17/2004
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[MSAR] Mares in MSAR / Stallions,
Jorene Downs, 03/17/2004
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Re: [MSAR] Mares in MSAR / Stallions,
bonnie elster, 03/18/2004
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Re: [MSAR] Mares in MSAR / Stallions,
MSAR Maintainer, 03/19/2004
- RE: [MSAR] Mares in MSAR / Stallions, Ian Vowles, 03/19/2004
- Re: [MSAR] Mares in MSAR / Stallions, Jorene Downs, 03/19/2004
- [MSAR] Rec.equestrian, MSAR Maintainer, 03/20/2004
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Re: [MSAR] Mares in MSAR / Stallions,
MSAR Maintainer, 03/19/2004
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Re: [MSAR] Mares in MSAR / Stallions,
bonnie elster, 03/18/2004
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[MSAR] Mares in MSAR / Stallions,
Jorene Downs, 03/17/2004
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RE: [MSAR] (MSAR) Stallions,
LMabry-zianet, 03/17/2004
- [MSAR] neutering and spaying/stallions, BC911, 03/17/2004
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Re: [MSAR] (MSAR) Stallions,
Julie Hensley, 03/17/2004
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