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  • From: paul@oneseedling.com
  • To: "Healthy soil and sustainable growing" <livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] More on Low Dairy and Meat Diets
  • Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2010 07:26:49 -0600

Believe me, I understand your point of view and agree that it is far
better to buy, scrounge etc used things and use them until they are used
up and then use the parts for something else. This is how I conduct my
life and our sustainable farm.
My point was that no matter how we conduct our daily lives, whether that
be as far off the mainstream grid as possible, we still impact everything
else.
I also agree that by raising our own or trading for the same we can make
an impact on companies like Monsanto. It may be small but systems failures
start with small cracks.
We built our sustainable community house using used 40ft shipping
containers, drilled our own wells, built our own windmills and wind
chargers and use less than 2 gal of water per person per day. But even
that is not enough. www.reliancecommunityfarm.com

> After thinking it over I decided it would be a waste of my time to explain
> that any further.
>
> paul tradingpost@lobo.net
>
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> On 6/24/2010 at 7:43 PM paul@oneseedling.com wrote:
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>>all true, but on the other hand, when you buy that used car or house,
>>you free up someone else to buy something new. Even if you use used
>>veg oil in your vehicle it just frees someone to buy more.
>>
>>Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>On Jun 24, 2010, at 3:49 PM, "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Yes and like I mentioned before, as far as practical. But there are
>>> a few more facts. One is that by recycling and buying second hand we
>>> not only cut down on waste, we deprive the system of our retail
>>> purchases and save the resources needed to manufacture them in the
>>> first place. There are millions of used cars out there with a few
>>> scrapes, and existing houses that need some work to be liveable,
>>> good used clothing with many other uses, and on and on. So we can
>>> make a large dent in the consumer products made and sold by the
>>> corporations. So doing we can also live with less or no credit and
>>> the interest on the loans. That makes a concrete difference. And we
>>> don't have to be foot soldiers working for corporations either. Like
>>> I said, far as practical.
>>>
>>> paul tradingpost@lobo.net
>>>
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>>> On 6/24/2010 at 2:04 PM paul@oneseedling.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> All so true, but the problem is that if you drive a car, live in any
>>>> structure other than materials close at hand, eat anything other
>>>> than what
>>>> you grow. use a computer or wear clothes other than what you make
>>>> from
>>>> scratch, you support all of these corperate controls. Thems the facts
>>>> folks. Paul the Skeptic
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