Healthy soil and sustainable growing

[paul@oneseedling.com]

all true, but on the other hand, when you buy that used car or house,  
you free up someone else to buy something new. Even if you use used  
veg oil in your vehicle it just frees someone to buy more.

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On Jun 24, 2010, at 3:49 PM, "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net> wrote:

> Yes and like I mentioned before, as far as practical. But there are  
> a few more facts. One is that by recycling and buying second hand we  
> not only cut down on waste, we deprive the system of our retail  
> purchases and save the resources needed to manufacture them in the  
> first place. There are millions of used cars out there with a few  
> scrapes, and existing houses that need some work to be liveable,  
> good used clothing with many other uses, and on and on. So we can  
> make a large dent in the consumer products made and sold by the  
> corporations. So doing we can also live with less or no credit and  
> the interest on the loans. That makes a concrete difference. And we  
> don't have to be foot soldiers working for corporations either. Like  
> I said, far as practical.
>
> paul tradingpost@lobo.net
>
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> On 6/24/2010 at 2:04 PM paul@oneseedling.com wrote:
>
> > All so true, but the problem is that if you drive a car, live in any
> > structure other than materials close at hand, eat anything other  
> > than what
> > you grow. use a computer or wear clothes other than what you make  
> > from
> > scratch, you support all of these corperate controls. Thems the facts
> > folks. Paul the Skeptic
> >
> > > And in most industrialized countries such as ours corporate  
> > > control of
> > > government is the dominant avenue of limiting our freedoms.  
> > > Examples:
> > > Monsanto, Cargill, Archer Daniels Midland. All the lobbying and  
> > > campaign
> > > financing to cut regulations on corporations is bought and paid  
> > > for by -
> > > corporations. Since their only mandate is profit for the vast  
> > > wealth of
> > > the owners, our freedoms to work where we please, buy what we  
> > > please from
> > > whom we please, say what we please, and live where we please are all
> > > limited by corporate dictates we have no voice or vote in  
> > > whatsoever.
> > It's
> > > the feudalism of the modern age.
> > >
> > > Want to sell raw milk? Want to make enough money to live on? Want  
> > > safe,
> > > effective medicine? Want to avoid GMOs next door to your farm? Want
> > > unpolluted air and water? Want safe food? Want to bring back good  
> > > paying
> > > jobs from China, allow unions, and stop the CEO of Wal-Mart from  
> > > getting
> > > 900 times the pay of a checkout "associate"? Want to stop  
> > > development
> > from
> > > eating up good farmland? Want to stop poisoning field and orchard  
> > > workers
> > > with pesticides? Want to criticize companies in public without  
> > > being sued
> > > for "commercial disparagement"? Want fishermen and shrimpers on  
> > > the Gulf
> > > coast to enjoy good livelihoods? The list goes on and on. In every  
> > > case,
> > > corporate profit denies us these rights and bought politicians  
> > > back them
> > > up.
> > >
> > > Nowhere is corporate control more evident than in agriculture. But  
> > > I can
> > > grow a lot of good food on a small patch they wouldn't find  
> > > profitable.
> > > And sell direct to customers without corporate processors,  
> > > distributors,
> > > and chain stores getting in between me and them and ruining my  
> > > produce.
> > >
> > > paul tradingpost@lobo.net
> > >
> > > *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> > >
> > > On 6/24/2010 at 2:47 AM paul@oneseedling.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > Have you ever tried living in another country? If so, then you know
> > > > the true value of what little ffreedoms we do have left. Standard  
> > > > of
> > > > living and infant mortality don't mean squat if you have limited
> > > > freedoms.
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > >
> > > > On Jun 23, 2010, at 10:21 PM, "Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hoewever, statistically several other countries have a higher
> > > > > standard of living, lower infant mortality, better health care,
> > > > > shorter work hours, and more paid holidays. Our country may be way
> > > > > better for some, but not for the vast majority of us. Americans of
> > > > > course won't believe that because they know this is the greatest
> > > > > country that ever was. But we can love our native land without all
> > > > > the false patriotic hype we're fed. I'm esp attached to the 4
> > > > > Corners region where I've settled for ten years. The sense of  
> > > > > place
> > > > > is part of us. In spite of it all I'm glad to be here.
> > > > >
> > > > > paul tradingpost@lobo.net
> > > > >
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> > > > > On 6/23/2010 at 7:10 PM paul@oneseedling.com wrote:
> > >
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