Healthy soil and sustainable growing

["Tradingpost" <tradingpost@lobo.net>]

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paul tradingpost@lobo.net
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On 5/23/2008 at 5:39 AM A Deville wrote:

>--- On Wed, 5/21/08, Tradingpost <tradingpost@lobo.net> wrote:
>From: Tradingpost <tradingpost@lobo.net>
>Subject: Re: [Livingontheland] Why Bother With Permaculture?
>To: livingontheland@lists.ibiblio.org
>Date: Wednesday, May 21, 2008, 1:54 AM
>
>What I wrote was, feeding your self and marketing sustainably grown
>production
>and doing it profitably is one of the most urgent priorities in today's
>economy. That is not an endorsement of corporate capitalism by any
>stretch, but
>the opposite. Doing it sustainably must include growing local, selling
>local,
>invariably small scale.
>
>You wrote
>>Permaculture, while it doesn't speak loudly to those wanting to start a
>
>>food production business, it certainly does to those who are in
>business
>>but looking to increase total yields while looking after their land
>>better than they are able to do with a monoculture.
>
>You may not know but biointensive has nothing to do with monoculture.
>Permaculture is not the only advocate against monoculture. Permaculture
>can't come close to increasing sustainable yields without the principles of
>biointensive. Biointensive is often coupled with proven, local adaptations
>such
>as no-till, marketing niches, season extension, and so forth. In fact, I do
>this, and I didn't invent anything. In my climate and environs I can't
>possibly practice permaculture, and wouldn't if I could because I'm
>sixty-four and I don't have fifty years to reach a climax ecosystem - the
>end goal of permaculture. And it wouldn't add anything to my production or
>sustainability over and above what I'm already doing. I supply two busy
>markets a week all season from just one-sixth of an acre, while improving
>the
>soil with organic matter going to waste otherwise. Of course no chemicals.
>And
>this is only my second year in this location. If I got sidetracked by
>permaculture I'd still be try
> ing to get started when I'm seventy.  I don't have time for all their
>nonsense. Nor does a hungry world.
>
>paul tradingpost@lobo.net
>
>
>
>Thanks Mike" you took the words out of my mounth's next statement!And I'm
>glad that there is someone here finaly with an understanding of
>"permaculture".And I would add in simple terms for those still not
>understanding it's concept,and that is that ' PERMACULTURE IS NOT
>GARDENING"!!!!!!!IT'S ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP AND LINKS BETWEEN ALL
>THINGS(elements in system).!!!!!
>Peace...........
>
>