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["Shea Tisdale" <shea AT sheatisdale.com>]

Sorry I didn't see your part about not being able to use a cookie.

Given that constraint, here is what I can tell you can be done.  You can use
a session ID contained in the URL that is passed back and forth each time
the user moves from page to page.

You might also be able to use dynamically generated pages where the links
contain a unique ID that is an assigned/tracked ID that is passed each time
a user clicks the link...same basic principle, but hidden a bit more from
the user.

But let me ask, why no cookies?
 

- Shea Tisdale
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org [mailto:internetworkers-
> bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Lance Brown
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:29 PM
> To: marcia AT nc.rr.com; Internetworkers:
> http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] how can I id a user?
> 
> Without a cookie, you are close to stuck.  The only thing I can think of
> would be to fingerprint the TCP stack of each visitor to see if you can
> distinguish NAT'ed machines, etc.  Not an easy task....
> 
> --[Lance]
> 
> marcia AT nc.rr.com wrote:
> > Craig,
> >
> > That's the thing... I'm not sure what information I need, but I know
> what I
> > want to accomplish.
> >
> > I want to be able to know how many unique visitors a web page receives
> per
> > day. If a person access that page 10 times a day, it should count as 1
> > visitor. I know just the IP won't do the job, due to several different
> > reasons. But, what can I pair with an IP address that will create this
> > unique machine's identity?
> >
> > Now, I understand that if a page a viewed 100 times, by 100 different
> > visitors, but from a public machine, it will count as only 1 visit,
> since
> > the IP address and every other hardware information will remain the
> same.
> > But this scenario would not be very realistic in this project's case.
> And I
> > can always add a hit count to the page.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> >
> > Original Message:
> > -----------------
> > From: Craig Duncan craigduncan AT entuend.com
> > Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:07:49 -0400
> > To: internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > Subject: Re: [internetworkers] how can I id a user?
> >
> >
> > marcia AT nc.rr.com wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hello all,
> >>
> >>I want to gather some web visitor information, but I'd like to do so
> behind
> >>the scenes.
> >>
> >>To do that, I can use either coldFusion, javaScript, or flash
> actionScript,
> >>or a combination of all.  I know just the IP address won't be enough, so
> >>what else can I get from the user without having to use cookies?
> >>
> >>Any way to get something from the BIOS, or registry like info, that
> would
> >>work cross-platform?
> >>
> >>Thanks!
> >>Marcia
> >>
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> > Knowing what type information you are looking for would help define how
> > to go about getting it. Just saying I want to grab data from someone
> > computer is not very helpful. Care to elaborate?
> >
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