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  • From: Lance Brown <lance AT bearcircle.net>
  • To: marcia AT nc.rr.com, "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [internetworkers] how can I id a user?
  • Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:29:11 -0400

Without a cookie, you are close to stuck. The only thing I can think of
would be to fingerprint the TCP stack of each visitor to see if you can
distinguish NAT'ed machines, etc. Not an easy task....

--[Lance]

marcia AT nc.rr.com wrote:
> Craig,
>
> That's the thing... I'm not sure what information I need, but I know what I
> want to accomplish.
>
> I want to be able to know how many unique visitors a web page receives per
> day. If a person access that page 10 times a day, it should count as 1
> visitor. I know just the IP won't do the job, due to several different
> reasons. But, what can I pair with an IP address that will create this
> unique machine's identity?
>
> Now, I understand that if a page a viewed 100 times, by 100 different
> visitors, but from a public machine, it will count as only 1 visit, since
> the IP address and every other hardware information will remain the same.
> But this scenario would not be very realistic in this project's case. And I
> can always add a hit count to the page.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Craig Duncan craigduncan AT entuend.com
> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:07:49 -0400
> To: internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] how can I id a user?
>
>
> marcia AT nc.rr.com wrote:
>
>
>>Hello all,
>>
>>I want to gather some web visitor information, but I'd like to do so behind
>>the scenes.
>>
>>To do that, I can use either coldFusion, javaScript, or flash actionScript,
>>or a combination of all. I know just the IP address won't be enough, so
>>what else can I get from the user without having to use cookies?
>>
>>Any way to get something from the BIOS, or registry like info, that would
>>work cross-platform?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>Marcia
>>
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> Knowing what type information you are looking for would help define how
> to go about getting it. Just saying I want to grab data from someone
> computer is not very helpful. Care to elaborate?
>
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