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["Tony Spencer" <tony AT tonyspencer.com>]

I absolutely agree with David.  NetTracker rocks. 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Minton [mailto:dminton AT mindspring.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:54 PM
> To: InterNetWorkers
> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] how can I id a user?
> 
> You could also look at NetTracker from Sane Solutions. We moved to
> NetTracker Enterprise last year, and one feature it offers is 
> the option of
> tracking visitors via cookies.
> 
>     http://www.sane.com/
> 
> Online demo:
> 
>     http://www.sane.com/demo/NetTracker/web/index.html
> 
> No personal information is necessary to track users. No 
> tracking scheme is
> 100% accurate though (if a person uses more than one browser 
> on a computer,
> or multiple computers, they will be recorded as multiple 
> users, as well as
> users that share computers appearing as a single user).
> 
> David
> 
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> 
> On 07/21/05 2:35 PM, "Shea Tisdale" <shea AT sheatisdale.com> wrote:
> 
> > I tend to agree with the sentiments expressed here about collecting
> > information from the users computer...not a "visitor 
> friendly" thing to do.
> > 
> > However determining unique visitors is a whole other proposition...
> > 
> > Cookies should suffice for this purpose.
> > 
> > The more complicated part is using a system on the back end 
> to create unique
> > cookies and then track them over time...this would require 
> a database of
> > some type...
> > 
> > There are also plenty of services that do this for you for 
> very little cost.
> > Google "Track Unique Visitors" or "Website Tracking".
> > 
> > Many website log analysis and stats tools include the 
> ability to use cookies
> > for this purpose.  See WebTrends and similar.
> > 
> > 
> > - Shea Tisdale
> > 
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org 
> [mailto:internetworkers-
> >> bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of marcia AT nc.rr.com
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:23 PM
> >> To: internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] how can I id a user?
> >> 
> >> Craig,
> >> 
> >> That's the thing... I'm not sure what information I need, 
> but I know what
> >> I
> >> want to accomplish.
> >> 
> >> I want to be able to know how many unique visitors a web 
> page receives per
> >> day. If a person access that page 10 times a day, it 
> should count as 1
> >> visitor. I know just the IP won't do the job, due to 
> several different
> >> reasons. But, what can I pair with an IP address that will 
> create this
> >> unique machine's identity?
> >> 
> >> Now, I understand that if a page a viewed 100 times, by 
> 100 different
> >> visitors, but from a public machine, it will count as only 
> 1 visit, since
> >> the IP address and every other hardware information will 
> remain the same.
> >> But this scenario would not be very realistic in this 
> project's case. And
> >> I
> >> can always add a hit count to the page.
> >> 
> >> Any suggestions?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Original Message:
> >> -----------------
> >> From: Craig Duncan craigduncan AT entuend.com
> >> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:07:49 -0400
> >> To: internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org
> >> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] how can I id a user?
> >> 
> >> 
> >> marcia AT nc.rr.com wrote:
> >> 
> >>> Hello all,
> >>> 
> >>> I want to gather some web visitor information, but I'd 
> like to do so
> >> behind
> >>> the scenes.
> >>> 
> >>> To do that, I can use either coldFusion, javaScript, or flash
> >> actionScript,
> >>> or a combination of all.  I know just the IP address 
> won't be enough, so
> >>> what else can I get from the user without having to use cookies?
> >>> 
> >>> Any way to get something from the BIOS, or registry like 
> info, that would
> >>> work cross-platform?
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks!
> >>> Marcia
> >>> 
> >>> 
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> >>> 
> >>> 
> >> Knowing what type information you are looking for would 
> help define how
> >> to go about getting it. Just saying I want to grab data 
> from someone
> >> computer is not very helpful. Care to elaborate?
> >> 
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