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["Lyman Green" <daerid AT io.com>]

Ian Meyer said:
> the simple fact that he knows someone who supposedly went on McD's only
> and lost 30 pounds and can run father completely invalidated the movie,
> durrr
>
> nevermind that this was well documented with medical records, doctors,
> etc.
>
> furthermore, nowhere in the talk about Supersize Me (I havent seen
> it...yet) have I seen that it points fingers at anyone but the public
> and McDonalds. And nothing about "Nanny State" needing to fix anything.
> More like the corporation is in it solely for the money, regardless of
> the consequences on their customers and the people need to realize how
> terrible the food is for them and stop eating so much shit.
>

I saw this movie with the wife last night at the Carolina in CH.  It was
excellent, IMO.  Spurlock had 3 doctors, a nutritionist, and a fitness
person monitoring his health.  I would say the movie is fairly
non-judgemental, actually, and doesn't say that any one thing is at fault
or that there is any one solution.  Clearly big fingers are pointed at
McDonald's and the public who engage in such unhealthy eating habits, but
really it's just a presentation of fairly factual things.  Sure there's an
agenda - the agenda is to show that McDonald's is helping to perpetuate a
culture of unhealthy, morbidly obese Americans, and they're doing it
relentlessly and they're starting at an early age.  The movie also does
talk about how the goverment(s) could help with this issue, and that they
are not.  Several visits to schools to discuss health issues and food
selection are really amusing, but I would definitely NOT characterize this
movie as presenting the "Nanny State" as a panacea for the problem of
obesity and ill health in America.

There are a number of points in the movie where I laughed out loud.  Some
of them were genuinely funny moments, but a large number of other times I
laughed out loud because I was just incredulous about some of the
information Spurlock presents in the movie.  $1.4b spent by McDonald's on
advertising, compared to $2m spent by the entire fruit/vegetable industry?
 Zoiks.  I do not know where he got the figures but frankly it didn't
surprise me.  There's a humorous moment where 1st graders in Worcester, MA
schools can't identify a fairly traditional looking picture of Jesus but
every one got Ronald McDonald correct.  Sure, there's no way to know how
manipulated that scene was by Spurlock, but frankly, again I wasn't
surprised.  For crying out loud, I can't look left or right or listen to
the radio or watch TV without seeing fast food and McDonald's ads.  I pass
a McDonald's no matter how I choose to go home.  Sure some are a few
hundred yards out of my sight as I pass them by, but they are there,
nonetheless.

Very interesting movie.  It further motivates me to continue to lose
weight, that's for sure.

Lyman

> ~ian
>
> On Jun 22, 2004, at 2:35 PM, Shea Tisdale wrote:
>
>> Do you have any links on SuperSizeme being a con?
>>
>>  
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
>> [mailto:internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Don
>> Rua
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 2:27 PM
>> To: Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
>> Subject: Re: [internetworkers] fahrenheit911, at a theater near you!
>>
>>  
>>
>> I'm not sure if this article had been posted, but I'm so amazed
>> at clownish characters like Moore, Carville, Franken, et al getting
>> rich off of the left I couldn't help myself. Meanwhile, Clinton is
>> turning his dishonesty and infidelity into millions with his tell-all
>> book, and SuperSizeMe is winning awards for being a scam, only because
>> their victim is a big corporation.
>>
>>  
>>
>> http://slate.msn.com/id/2102723/
>>
>>  
>>
>> "To describe this film as dishonest and demagogic would almost be to
>> promote those terms to the level of respectability. To describe this
>> film as a piece of crap would be to run the risk of a discourse that
>> would never again rise above the excremental. To describe it as an
>> exercise in facile crowd-pleasing would be too obvious. Fahrenheit
>> 9/11 is a sinister exercise in moral frivolity, crudely disguised as
>> an exercise in seriousness. It is also a spectacle of abject political
>> cowardice masking itself as a demonstration of “dissenting” bravery."
>>
>>  
>>
>> PS- On the SuperSize con: There is a long time RTP employee who I know
>> went on a McDonald's only diet last fall. He lost 30+ pounds and
>> increased his running distance. I watched him do it personally over a
>> period of a few months, but that story would never win the Sundance
>> festival or set records in Australia, I betcha. So, the question is,
>> are people lining up to drop five bucks to hear truth, or are they
>> salivating for evidence that Big Corp is responsible for their
>> problems, and Nanny State needs to fix all.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>>  From: Edward Wesolowski
>>
>> To: Post
>>
>> Sent: Monday, June 21, 2004 4:54 PM
>>
>> Subject: [internetworkers] fahrenheit911, at a theater near you!
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>>  Opening this Friday:
>> http://www.fahrenheit911.com/
>>
>>  ...is this guy a force of nature or what!-)
>>  Ed W.
>>
>>
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