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[Ian Meyer <ianmeyer AT mac.com>]

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Using "Remember Pearl Harbor" to show how he protected the nation is 
like...well...saying "Remember I got robbed even though I knew the 
robber was going to come" to promote your security.

He could've used something better and more appropriate.

~ian

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On Mar 5, 2004, at 3:49 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:

> phew that was like pulling teeth.
>
> no question FDR's civil rights record was the worst being the only 
> president
> to imprison individuals based solely on their race.  do i think it was 
> wrong
> for him to use that as a political slogan?  NO.  he's commenting on his
> record in defending the nation.  (although if i lived in his time i 
> would be
> screaming "yeah, i remember pearl harbor and your isolationism did 
> nothing
> to prevent it!")
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org
> > [mailto:internetworkers-bounces AT lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf
> > Of David R.Matusiak
> > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2004 3:43 PM
> > To: Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/
> > Subject: Re: [internetworkers] fury over WTC ads
> >
> > it seems as if no method of persuasion or logic is going to
> > have any effect.  all that must happen is for me to answer
> > this question, without due consideration to its relevancy in
> > our current place and time.
> >
> > what is my personal opinion?  what do i think, regardless of
> > my employer, saviour, political affiliation, or gender?
> > well, in my personal unfettered opinion,
> >
> > YES - i think it was wrong for FDR to use that tack as a
> > campaign slogan.
> >
> > i believe we must honor our soldiers, living and dead, but i
> > think that using their sacrifice as a political gambit is deplorable.
> >
> > that, and i think that the whole 1940s/50s way of thinking
> > (which included such greats as "Remember Pearl Harbor") did a
> > whole lot to engender hatred and bigotry towards Asian
> > peoples and Asian-Americans for the past 50+ years.
> >
> > i think we have to change things quite a bit (like our
> > attitudes) if we are going to see ANY improvement in our
> > lifetimes.  thus, you can see that i am not in agreement with
> > the "Things must stay as they are"
> > party.
> >
> > On Mar 5, 2004, at 3:16 PM, Tony Spencer wrote:
> >
> > > well although david tried to make the case that its unacceptable to
> > > compare events in history to today, he gave himself away
> > when he did
> > > just that:
> > >
> > > "but i can tell you without question, George W. Bush is no FDR."
> > >
> > > now that we know he can compare a previous president to the
> > current,
> > > will he answer the question?
> > >
> > > was it wrong for FDR to use pearl harbor in his
> > presidential campaign
> > > material?
> > > YES or NO?
> >
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