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  • From: Steven Champeon <schampeo AT hesketh.com>
  • To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Re: SPAM the SPAMMERS
  • Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 11:48:07 -0500

on Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 10:47:00AM -0500, Tanner Lovelace wrote:
> Steven Champeon wrote:
>
> >No, that's not bulk - that's abuse. Like I said, don't confuse the
> >issue. 'Bulk' means that the message was sent to many people / accounts
> >/ addresses. That's all that it means in the context of spam. If I send
> >you five thousand copies of the same message, but don't send it to anyone
> >else, that's abuse - that's not bulk mail.
> >
> >If I can block the sender and the entire problem goes away, it's not UBE.
>
> But, all of those messages come from different people. You *can't*
> just block the sender and have the problem go away.

No, all those messages come from the C/R system. Or maybe I'm not
following you.

> Besides, what "Bulk" actually is is a designation on the e-mail itself.
> It's the "Precedence: Bulk" header on the e-mail. I maintain that this
> stuff *should* be designated Bulk, because it's not regular e-mail.
> It certainly should *not* be designated anything else like important, etc..

Bah. Honestly - when's the last time you saw a 'bulk' Precedence header
on actual UBE/UCE?

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