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  • From: Tanner Lovelace <lovelace AT wayfarer.org>
  • To: "Internetworkers: http://www.ibiblio.org/internetworkers/" <internetworkers AT lists.ibiblio.org>
  • Subject: Re: [internetworkers] Re: SPAM the SPAMMERS
  • Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:47:00 -0500

Steven Champeon wrote:

No, that's not bulk - that's abuse. Like I said, don't confuse the
issue. 'Bulk' means that the message was sent to many people / accounts
/ addresses. That's all that it means in the context of spam. If I send
you five thousand copies of the same message, but don't send it to anyone
else, that's abuse - that's not bulk mail.

If I can block the sender and the entire problem goes away, it's not UBE.

But, all of those messages come from different people. You *can't*
just block the sender and have the problem go away.

Besides, what "Bulk" actually is is a designation on the e-mail itself.
It's the "Precedence: Bulk" header on the e-mail. I maintain that this
stuff *should* be designated Bulk, because it's not regular e-mail.
It certainly should *not* be designated anything else like important, etc..

Don't get me wrong - there's enough to complain about WRT C/R - but to
confuse it with spam doesn't help anybody.

Huh? There's no confusion with spam here. Ok, perhaps I did mention
spam once, but the question of whether C-R should be labeled bulk
mail or not doesn't have anything to do with spam. There are many uses
for the bulk designation. For instance, many mailing lists use
Precedence: bulk (trilug does. inw, however, seems to use Precedence: list).

Tanner
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