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- From: Maria Winslow <maria.winslow AT dexxtra.com>
- To: InterNetWorkers <internetworkers AT franklin.oit.unc.edu>
- Subject: Re: collapse
- Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 16:59:31 -0400
Not to mention the fact that prison in the US is relatively luxurious. They
get to watch
tv, play sports, read, get medical attention when needed....
Medical Illustration wrote:
> Not to sound paranoid & mean, but I have two problems with that
>
> 1. Life imprisonment seems too kind a sentence to me. This is a man who
> probably feels that he was acting for a righteous cause, and succeeded in
> his goal. Therefore he has that to strengthen him throughout whatever
> hardships he encounters in prison. And if you truly want change, hardship
> is often the only way to change someone's mind.
> 2. What if he were to ever get out? What if a terrorist decided to kidnap
> a high ranking official, or highjack a plane, in order to get the said
> person back? Then they have a live hero to praise, who has been successful
> at least once.
>
> Also, to think that prison doesn't have a similar effect to killing them as
> far as creating a martyr, does not seem logical to me. The person still
> managed to successfully complete their mission. Now they are being punished
> by the big evil power. And to top it off, they're alive. What a hero!
>
> Though I won't argue about the effectiveness of the death penalty (which I
> don't think can ever truly be measured- no matter how masterful you are with
> statistics & psychology) I would argue that if we start killing these
> people, there will be some effectiveness. These people, though they are
> evil, are fairly unique. They are singularly strong, charismatic, and rich
> leaders. That is part of the reason that they keep succeeding in their
> goals, against whatever odds, with limited resources. Kill enough of them
> before they can breed, and take advantage of natural selection.
>
> Drew
> On 9/13/01 4:22 PM, "Thomas Beckett" <thomas AT tbeckett.com> wrote:
>
> > Medical Illustration wrote:
> >> However, what exactly does anyone see as a good, non violent reaction to
> >> this? Someone earlier mentioned capturing & imprisoning the responsible
> >> parties, but I don't see that as a possibility without extreme violence
> >> coming to both sides... So what exactly would a non violent solution
> >> look
> >> like in this case?
> >
> > Well, it worked with the embassy bombing suspects. One of the main
> > defendants was captured in Pakistan and extracted to the U.S. Now he's
> > in prison for life.
> >
> > TaB
> >
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Re: collapse
, (continued)
- Re: collapse, Michael Tucker, 09/13/2001
- Re: collapse, Rafe Colburn, 09/13/2001
- Re: collapse, Medical Illustration, 09/13/2001
- Re: collapse, Thomas Beckett, 09/13/2001
- Re: collapse, Andrew Phillips, 09/13/2001
- Re: collapse, Michael Hayes, 09/13/2001
- Re: collapse, Thomas Beckett, 09/13/2001
- Re: collapse, Medical Illustration, 09/13/2001
- Re: collapse, Robert Weeks, 09/13/2001
- Re: collapse, David Minton, 09/13/2001
- Re: collapse, Maria Winslow, 09/13/2001
- Re: collapse, B, 09/13/2001
- Re: collapse, Thomas Beckett, 09/13/2001
- Re: collapse, Robert Weeks, 09/13/2001
- Re: collapse, Thomas Beckett, 09/13/2001
- Re: collapse, B, 09/13/2001
- Re: collapse, Greg Cox, 09/13/2001
- Re: collapse, Sarah Ovenall, 09/13/2001
- Re: collapse, Robert Weeks, 09/13/2001
- Re: collapse, David Minton, 09/13/2001
- Re: collapse, Thomas Beckett, 09/13/2001
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