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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

My version of health care reform :-)

All medical providers change their billing...

Those with health insurance pay $1000
Those without health insurance pay $100

That simple step applied across the board would cut out the cost of all the 
health insurance skyscrapers and offices, all the salaries of the health 
insurance workers, all the retired insurance agents collecting kickbacks on 
policies they wrote, all the long distance faxes and phone calls back and 
forth to get permission to treat patients, and so on............   It cuts 
out the red tape cost of the insurance companies.

I know, none of my ideas are popular......... but do the math.



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"Paper money eventually returns to its intrinsic value ZERO" ~ Voltaire 1729 

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On Feb 23, 2010, at 5:23 PM, Marie McHarry wrote:

>  Were
> I Dictator in Chief, I'd put a $1 tax on gasoline and raise it every
> year till it got up to, say $10, and dedicate the proceeds to
> improving the conventional and alternate energy that's available.
> 
> It would take a dictator, though, to bring that off. Half the
> CongressCritters would want to give new tax breaks, half would want to
> fight a new war, and half would find some new program to fund. Yeah, I
> know that there aren't three halves in a whole, but this is my
> fantasy, dammit.

We have found the enemy and it lives in the DC Whorehouse, a place where the 
denizens care only about their personal power and continued enrichment.

David Brooks has the political pandemic nailed in today's column:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/23/opinion/23brooks.html

Always vote against the incumbent.

Gene GeRue
www.Ruralize.com

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Ditto.

Do you or does anyone know the old recipe for keeping, I'm not even sure what 
it is called actually..... it is basically a bowl of live? yeast that you 
just keep going, instead of going to the store and buying new packages of 
yeast.

I read about it years ago and forgot to save it.  Something along the lines 
of a pieces of bread in a bowl of water, or something keep adding water & ??? 
as needed, and it keeps growing yeast to use in bread recipes.

 



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> >I am comforted to find that James has accepted, if not embraced, the 
> relevance of at least partial machine-powered homesteading.

Oh I do.  Mainly I eschew using machines when they really don't save all 
that much work if indeed they aren't more work.  I use a knife instead of a 
vegetable processor, fewer dishes rather than use a dishwasher (a great deal 
of our food is eaten with chop sticks and a single bowl), a broom instead of 
a vacuum cleaner (we have one, a modified shop vac, but it isn't used unless 
it's really needed), clothesline instead of a dryer, sourdough bread rather 
than a bread machine,  etc.

Then there is the gray area where doing it manually IS some more work, but 
not that much more work.  I don't know how your grist mill is configured, 
although ours is indeed a bit of work, it's not that bad.  The 10 yo can do 
it, not ten pounds of flour at a time, but enough for biscuits.  The cross 
cut 
saw and axe are more work than a chainsaw (although not usually much more 
time), but not nearly as much more as is imagined.  A roto-tiller is not 
appropriate for my type of gardening, but make no mistake turning the whole 
thing with a shovel is more sweat than a tiller.  But I'm just not in a 
'get-er-done' attitude in the garden.

There are things I just can't do manually in anything like an equitable 
way.  I can't freeze food or keep lights going without a really LOT of 
effort.  
We could do without both, but I'd rather not.


James</HTML>
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I came across something last year - an alternative to refrigeration.  This 
native indian family was using this method full time, I figured it would be a 
back up plan idea.

A standard ice chest type cooler, partially filled with water.  Open the 
cooler at night so the water temp cools down to overnight temps.  Close the 
lid early in the a/m (keep in the shade of course).  You've trapped the 
cooler overnight temps in the water, keeps your food cool.  

I haven't experimented with it to see what the day time temp would be inside 
the cooler, as food needs to be stored under 40 degrees.  

I suspect in an extended power outage situation it would be big a help.



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On Feb 23, 2010, at 7:27 PM, Clansgian AT wmconnect.com wrote:

>  I use . . . sourdough bread rather 
> than a bread machine,  etc.

I have never used a bread machine or any other machine to make my bread and 
pizza skins. But I do now use the refrigerator, which would be my last 
machine to give up, I think.

I am so happy with the new way I am making bread dough that I cannot resist 
offering it for edification and, it goes without saying in this venue, 
critique.

I have used at least five times now the system that was featured in Mother 
Earth News recently. For those who do not get the mag, here is the article 
online:
http://www.motherearthnews.com/Real-Food/Artisan-Bread-In-Five-Minutes-A-Day.aspx

My experience is that a half-cup less water works better. Even then, the 
dough is still wet when you take it from the fridge, so have a lot of flour 
on the surface where you shape it.

Gene

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>>>>>PS: If global climate change is manmade, we can probably quit worrying 
>>>>>-- We'll probably run out of fossil fuels before we kill everything>>>>>

I agree.

>>>>.I don't think that people are wired to accept as real that which has
not happened>>>>>

Agree.  That is why I found this quote so interesting.  "The irony, of 
course, is the public acts in a manner consistsent with what has already 
happened, not what is about to happen." ~ Brian Pretti

There is some awareness about conservation, that is why Detroit came out with 
more fuel efficient engines, and significantly reduced emmission pollution 
since the time that I was a kid.... however, it backfired in a way, that 
people drive more miles, and have multiple cars per family now - and 
completely wiped out the goal of reducing oil consumption... 

You can't give Congress anymore tax money - they will squander it.  They 
always have, they always will.  They will do things like the local 
congressman did, give $50M grant to a buddy to employ a handful of people 
max, and a $50M very low interest loan, which will result in a lowering of 
the water table.  Venture capital money should be used for that, not taxpayer 
money.   Why:?  Because venture capitalists know that not all ideas work out, 
they know up front they might lose all of their investment.  When taxpayer 
money is used, the taxpayer doesn't have a clue that their money is chasing 
potentially bad and unsound ideas, or appearing to do something when it is 
just a funnelling off of money to friends to those in power.


 

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On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 7:28 AM,  <Clansgian AT wmconnect.com> wrote:
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> In fact, the prospects of, for example, there being no more oil is so
> horrifying that most people could deal with proof that their spouse was 
> cheating
> on them, their child had died, or that there is no god better than they
> could deal with proof that oil reserves are declining.
>
I don't think that people are wired to accept as real that which has
not happened. As a young person, I sketched out some ideas for novels:
one was about a virus that selectively killed young people (in the 18
to 20-something range) and one was about a world were oil was so
scarce that most people hadn't seen a private motor vehicle. Pity I
didn't write one or both; I'd either be considered a prophet or the
spawn of the Evil One.  :)

I think my parent's and grandparents' generations were conditioned to
expect that a technological fix really would appear to fix
contemporary problems. After all, they grew up with kerosene to light
the evening and lived for 30 or more years after the beginning of the
nuclear age.

I'm a lot more skeptical, especially considering that I don't see any
awareness that we ought to at least start conserving oil and
installing solar and wind power where we can, which would at least
keep us going for a few more years. Everyone from the President to
teenagers salivating over their new cars act like this won't end. Were
I Dictator in Chief, I'd put a $1 tax on gasoline and raise it every
year till it got up to, say $10, and dedicate the proceeds to
improving the conventional and alternate energy that's available.

It would take a dictator, though, to bring that off. Half the
CongressCritters would want to give new tax breaks, half would want to
fight a new war, and half would find some new program to fund. Yeah, I
know that there aren't three halves in a whole, but this is my
fantasy, dammit.

Marie, living in a 150-year-old house with two working fireplaces, one
of which already has a fireplace insert

PS: If global climate change is manmade, we can probably quit worrying
-- We'll probably run out of fossil fuels before we kill everything
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On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Robert Walton <waltonrp AT gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Knowing how you value good bread, I've downloaded that article and
> about to read it. I skimmed it already and it's interesting. I like
> looking at cooking as a chemist would.
>
> Rob - Va

I have Harold McGee's "On Food and Cooking" and "The Curious Cook." I think
you'd enjoy them, as McGee is a chemist who likes exploring the "whys" of
cooking.

Karen Black
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Blodgett, OR