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[Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>]

On NIMBY.  I would love to see a law passed that says that energy can not be 
transmitted more than 20 miles from the production source (or some such low 
size number).  For example - there is a nat gas electric plant here in the 
desert where there is very limited water.  The nat gas electric plant has 
cooling towers and uses tremendous amounts of water - and is dropping the 
regional water table level 1 foot per year now.  The water just evaporates 
into the air and doesn't come back as it usually only rains here a few times 
a year.  Who gets all this electricity?  Not us!  Not a single KW is sold 
here.  Every KW is shipped to California because they are NIMBYs!  
Transmitting the electricity that far required a TON of mining operation to 
extract copper, spewing tons of diesel fumes into the air, tons of more 
contruction emissions to clear paths and erect transmission lines across two 
states to send electricity to the NIMBY's.  
 
I just came back from California.  Driving from Phoenix to LA at midnight, I 
thought we were getting close to LA because the sky looked like a sunrise in 
the western sky.  Nope.  We were more than 100 miles away, yet could see all 
the city lights.  From there I drove to San Diego, again at nighttime,,, 
practically a solid sea of lights the entire coast line from LA to San Diego. 
 Lights from electricity shipped to them from 2 states away - so they can 
pretend they are "green" while negatively impacting the environment of some 
other community far far away.  Lights turned on while sleeping.  Liights 
turned on at 2am in skyscrapers where workers have gone home.  Lights 
lighting up streets where no one is driving, and where cars have headlights 
to light the way anyway. What hipocracy.  
 
People need to put their actions where their mouths are and start turning off 
the lights, including the city street lights.  They need to either stop 
purchasing or start unplugging all those little electronic gadgets that have 
LED readouts on them or on standby with remotes (5 watts an hour x 24 hrs a 
day x 30 days a month.... x how many in each household?)
 
Governments can tax people all they want and send the money to 3rd world 
countries so they can develop and turn their lights on and purchase energy 
from the energy producers.... but that will not change a damn thing.  It has 
to start with individuals turning OFF their wasteful energy use habits.  
 
The energy source with the least amouont of impact is solar on each 
individual property.  There are no transmission lines needed (except from 
panels to building).  That alone reduces the amount of mining for dwindling 
resources.  There is no need to cut down trees for power lines.  There is no 
need to waste a ton of fuel for construction.  (Fuel is needed for shipping 
panels, etc initially).  There is no need to replace old power poles, or 
erect them again and again after hurricanes or earthquakes or wildfires.
 
For all people who believe the earth is warmer because of man (even though 
the evidence is coming out that the research allegedly proving man caused the 
globe to warm as opposed to normal natural cycles of sun, etc was fabricated 
on a massive conspiratorial level) . then start right now with putting money 
where mouth is.  Stop consuming energy at the personal level, and produce the 
energy needs on your own property instead of purchasing it from production 
sources in other states.  (What isn't in dispute is in some parts of the 
globe that temps have risen,  the dispute is whether it is man or a natural 
cyclical phase.  When I learned that a town was discovered underneath a 
receeding glacier in Norway that clearly tells me that the globe has been 
this warm before - and it was before the invention of cars and coal plants.)
 
Another significant trend coming up just over the horizon that will impact us 
also at the energy level - Mexico's Cantarell Field.  Miexico will soon (next 
couple of years) have to face a choice - continue exporting oil and deny 
their own people access to oil - or to stop exporting so their own people can 
have oil.  Mexico is a major supplier of oil to the US.  Last year's high gas 
prices (diesel hit $5 in Texas in 2008) may very well turn out to be the fat 
lady just clearing her throat before really starting to sing, as depletion 
rates are on the rise.
 
 
 
 
 
 
The world is nothing but a bunch of NIMBYs!  Reminds me of the kids when 
they were little and the finger pointing.  Everything was someone else's 
fault and the culprit always turned out to be "who me, I didn't do 
anything."

Lynda


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On Sat, Nov 28, 2009 at 9:43 AM, Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com> wrote:

..........  When I learned that a town was discovered underneath a receeding
> glacier in Norway that clearly tells me that the globe has been this warm
> before - and it was before the invention of cars and coal plants.)
>

> Hi Leslie,

Would you be able to document this report?  ... I have not been able to find
mention of it Googling keywords.  Is so, one instance in one locality would
not be clear evidence for me for such a general conclusion but I would like
to read about it.  thanks  Jerry B