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The problem seems to lie in the numbers, as he quoted 46 million uninsured  
that would be helped, and the talking heads stated that there are 35  
million americans uninsured and 11 million illegals. When Obama quoted the  
combined number it immediately inflamed many including Mr. Wilson. The Dems  
fought tooth and nail against a national ID that could be used for voting, 
now  
they will need one for the healthcare program that will weed out the illegal 
 aliens. Interesting problem really, they need the votes after all, but to 
keep  their promise to the american people they will need to do this.
 
Drew
 
 
In a message dated 9/11/2009 4:40:23 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
lynnw1366 AT hotmail.com writes:

"The  reform I'm proposing would not apply to those here illegally". 
Where's 
the  lie in that?

Lynn Wigglesworth
----- Original Message -----  
From: "Lynda" <lurine AT com-pair.net>
To:  <homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org>
Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:01  PM
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Irony


> Lie:
> a.. tell an  untruth; pretend with intent to deceive;
> a.. a statement that deviates  from or perverts the truth
>
> He lied by definition.  He did  a typical lawyer dance around what the 
> truth
> really is.   That is lying!
>
> AND, if he doesn't know or is mistaken, then he  shouldn't be up there
> spouting off.
>
> And, it isn't  saying he said said something not backed up by anything in 
>  the
> bill.  A lie is something done with intent to deceive and  that is what is
> being done!
>
> Lynda
> "To announce  that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we
>  are
> to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic  and
> servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."   Theordore
> Roosevelt, 1918.
> ----- Original Message -----  
> From: "VAN DELL JORDAN" <vdjor AT yahoo.com>
>
> I  would have been less put off if he had yelled "you are wrong".  It can 
 
> be
> argued that the wording in the bill won't have the effect  of eliminating
> illegals from coverage, and therefore he is  mistaken.  But to say he 
lied 
> is
> accusing him of saying  something not backed up by anything in the bill.
> There is wording in  the bill so that accusation is false.
>
>
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