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  • From: Leslie <cayadopi AT yahoo.com>
  • To: gil.white AT xplornet.com, homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
  • Subject: Re: [Homestead] Summer happenings
  • Date: Wed, 8 Jul 2009 18:55:52 -0700 (PDT)

My error was not enough water and poor soil.
But no germination problems.  Although the ground squirrels and/or birds did
eat the new green shoots in some areas.
Germination is a problem that concerns me with the reports of Monsanto
dinking around with the genetics to make sterile "fruit" forcing us to buy
from them again.
 
 
School, I wouldn't have retained much from books, however, hands on in the
garden I would have retained at a minimum the basics of putting seeds in the
ground, watering, and what the product looked like at picking time, and the
thrill of a successful harvest.   That's what I remember from helping
plant/harvest on grandpa's farm as a kid. 
 
It concerns me that there are kids today who don't know that "hamburgers"
come from cows.... etc. and that there is a delayed reward between planting
time and eating time.  I have a "city" friend who I talk to often, and he is
just shocked at some of the things I tell him about the garden or food
storage, etc.  To him, food comes from the grocery store 1 block away, which
he walks to daily to get fresh food....
 


--- On Wed, 7/8/09, Gil White <gil.white AT xplornet.com> wrote:





Don't feel bad. This is the 2nd year in a row that not one of my corn seeds
germinated.

Hopefully you'll have better luck moving the runners then I have in the past.
Whether it's trying to move tomato branches or trying to train bean vines I
always end up breaking them off.

As for teaching in school, would you have retained anything they taught you?
Speaking for myself I don't think I cared enough about where my food came
from until we bought our first home when I was 30. Outside of grade 9 typing
and my love for history and a couple of very close friends, I can't think of
too many things I've retained from my school days.

Gil


On Jul 8, 2009, cayadopi AT yahoo.com wrote: 
I sure wish my corn was doing as well as yours !!   
 
I didn't think I was even going to get any ears the corn is so short.  But I
do have ears on most plants.....  I going to guess that some ears are too
close to the ground and won't develop right,,,, but then a few weeks ago I
didn't think I'd have any ears after I saw your post on how tall your corn
is/was.
 
I was just out checking the pumpkins.  I can't believe how fast that stuff
grows.  I have to pick up runners and train them to grow in certain
directions since I seriously misjudged how far they will spread out.
 
They really need to make veggie gardening classes a requirement in all public
and private schools........... 
 

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I'm used to not enough water and poor soil - I'm basically sitting on top of
glacial till and soon to be surrounded by a gravel pit - but I've had a lot
of trouble the last few years with germination and transplanting. Usually no
problem transplanting peppers or tomatoes, and potatoes come up fine. I get
a few - like one or two - carrots or lettuce coming up. I've tried shade
cloth and even burlap - I'm away all day in the big city and just can't seem
to keep them moist enough.



I've had trouble with beans before - just as the first true leaves are
starting to come up something comes along and nips them off. I used hardware
cloth to create a fence so I know it's not a critter. And whatever insect it
might be thinks that Insecticidal soap is ketchup. So last year I built 1x2
frames and stretched aluminum window screen over them and I was finally able
to get a decent crop, but that wouldn't work for anyone growing rows and
rows like most of the members of this list.



This year I started indoors melon, cucumber, pumpkin, several kinds of
squash and some ( whatever they make gumbo with, my mind is drawing a
blank.) and then transplanted them outside at the end of May. The squash and
pumpkin are doing so well and I only lost a few which is why I had to
transplant them but the rest just disappeared and we had a cool and average
moisture spring so they didn't fry out there.



Corn I can usually sprout by pre-soaking, but this batch didn't come up last
year or covered this year.



I didn't even try onions this year. The last few years I've tried to start
them from seed but only a few survived the transplant.



I have the room so I should probably try a small green house, though money
has been tight the last few years and that's one project that keeps getting
put off.



The only hands on courses I had back in public school ( grade 7 & 8 ) was
woodworking and even though I've become somewhat of a handyman since then,
it had nothing to do with the classes. I remember spending time on a lathe
making a lamp base and on a grinder cutting acrylic into a key fob, neither
of which I've ever made use of since.



I work with a number of 1st and 2nd generation Canadians who certainly
remember not only where hamburger comes from, but who's family probably
raised pigs and chickens, but without exception their idea of a garden is
buying a 6 pack of beef steak tomatoes in May from their local exotic
seasonal garden center.



I also know some folks who work in the shelters and drop in centers around
Toronto and a large number of their clients wouldn't know how to make rice
or cook rolled oats.





_____

From: Leslie [mailto:cayadopi AT yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2009 9:56 PM
To: gil.white AT xplornet.com; homestead AT lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [Homestead] Summer happenings




My error was not enough water and poor soil.

But no germination problems. Although the ground squirrels and/or birds did
eat the new green shoots in some areas.

Germination is a problem that concerns me with the reports of Monsanto
dinking around with the genetics to make sterile "fruit" forcing us to buy
from them again.





School, I wouldn't have retained much from books, however, hands on in the
garden I would have retained at a minimum the basics of putting seeds in the
ground, watering, and what the product looked like at picking time, and the
thrill of a successful harvest. That's what I remember from helping
plant/harvest on grandpa's farm as a kid.



It concerns me that there are kids today who don't know that "hamburgers"
come from cows.... etc. and that there is a delayed reward between planting
time and eating time. I have a "city" friend who I talk to often, and he is
just shocked at some of the things I tell him about the garden or food
storage, etc. To him, food comes from the grocery store 1 block away, which
he walks to daily to get fresh food....







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